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Mala Users - Do you want LEDWiz Support?
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 25, 2006, 11:47:28 pm ---My thing about this stuff is... well it shouldn't be done in the front-end istelf in the first place.
Lights for each game should only be done once the game is launched (because ledwiz is slow to respond).
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What are you talking about, Howard?
Why would the LED-Wiz be "slow to respond" from a front-end? If you are having a problem like this, you are doing something wrong.
RandyT
Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: RandyT on September 27, 2006, 03:21:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 25, 2006, 11:47:28 pm ---My thing about this stuff is... well it shouldn't be done in the front-end istelf in the first place.
Lights for each game should only be done once the game is launched (because ledwiz is slow to respond).
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What are you talking about, Howard?
Why would the LED-Wiz be "slow to respond" from a front-end? If you are having a problem like this, you are doing something wrong.
RandyT
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You are getting defensive on something you shouldn't.
If you are scrolling through a list at about 6 ms or less per game and the ledwiz has a latency of about 10-15 ms and you are going to have to turn the lights on manually instead of using a layout file it isn't going to be able to keep up. You can have it light em up after it stops, but in that case you might as well wait until you launch the game.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Howard_Casto on September 27, 2006, 04:04:41 pm ---You are getting defensive on something you shouldn't.
If you are scrolling through a list at about 6 ms or less per game and the ledwiz has a latency of about 10-15 ms and you are going to have to turn the lights on manually instead of using a layout file it isn't going to be able to keep up. You can have it light em up after it stops, but in that case you might as well wait until you launch the game.
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The reason I am getting defensive is because you are blaming the slowness on the LED-Wiz, rather than where it belongs, which is most likely the file access to retrieve the layouts.
Even if there were a 50ms delay, that would still be 20 layouts a second. The screen caps don't even load and display that quickly with most FE's while scrolling.
BTW, if anyone would like a faster OCX, contact me. The compatibility delays in the last one were a little excessive.
RandyT
*EDIT* Another thing to consider is that a smart approach would be to only make them light up after the list has been stable for 100ms or thereabouts. No reason to keep changing the lights if no-one is interested in looking at them.
Howard_Casto:
No, it actually does have to do with how the ledwiz (and the interfaces you've given us) operate.
When most devices can't keep up they buffer their messages, the ledwiz doesn't.
I don't think anyone would expect the lights to stay in sync with the current game while a list is scrolling, but when it stops they would expect it to display the layout for the current game they've stopped on. The way the ocx is setup a person can't guarantee that unless code is put in to wait a while after the list has stopped and send the command a final time. So while scrolling it won't sync (none of them will) and when stopped you are going to have to send the command again.
I know this to be true because of the rapid transmission tests I did with my little test app. If you just happen to send a command while another command is being processed, it is ignored, meaning your last command (the important one) might not get through. Usually this isn't a big deal, but in time-sensitive instances like this, it might be.
In other words, like I said originally, there is no way the ledwiz can keep up.
Now keeping in mind that I don't have an io-warrior to play with, I do have the specs on it and it appears that mala uses direct communication, meaning that it doesn't have a ocx "middle man" that can miss messages while it is busy doing other things. Neither one would be able to stay perfectly in sync, but the io-warrior would do a better job if you insist on brining up the old "it's your fault, not the ledwiz" broken record you are so fond of. ;)
loadman:
--- Quote from: Havok on September 27, 2006, 12:17:56 pm ---** Evil thread poisoning by Havok **
The new version of Atomic (.18) supports the LEDWiz natively...
We now return to the topic at hand, and I think that Mala is a great front end as well...
:angel:
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RED CARD ;)
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