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Xiaou2:
lol.  I love your sense of humor :)

 You are in fact correct.   

 The problem is that there are people who Idolize these guys.. not
realizing thier massive lackings in the arts that they try to
utilize.

 I recall an Announcer saying something like: This was the first time in
thousands of years that the arts had been progressed...

  I litterally threw up in my mouth.   To think these clumby oafs
were considered the elete of all time made me want to commit
suicide on the spot to avoid the shame of living in this time period.

 

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 19, 2006, 01:42:36 pm --- I recall an Announcer saying something like: This was the first time in
thousands of years that the arts had been progressed...

--- End quote ---


Eh, that's just marketing.  Given the humility that is supposed to be inherent in the majority of martial arts, it somewhat surprises me that you would be bothered in that way.  Your personal advancement, and recognition of your own peers and teachers, is supposed to be what you want, yes?  Not the recognition of random people in the street?

Xiaou2:

 ahh, but when I see regression rather than advancment...
 that bugs me.   

  Just look at video games today..  they are mostly the exact same
game.  A FPS shooter.  The same game repacked with different
gfx, and the same control and premise.. and lack of challenge
or originality.   

 And music..   To me,  the 80s were an incredible period
where people experimented and got some amazing
creative results.

 Even the very Keyboards had better and more original
sounds.  Now every keyboard seems to use samples...
and so every song you hear sounds almost the same as
the next.

 Yeah, I know... there are exceptions.   However, the
trend of the masses, bothers me.


 As for the arts,  It also bothers me that great knowledge
may get lost because of great ignorance.   

 And that some people think that this stuff will save them
in a real life/death street fight.   

  Maybe Im just a premature grumpy old man now...   :P

 heh


clanggedin:
The UFC started because the Gracie Family wanted to prove the effectiveness of BJJ against another attacker. They only had 3 rules. No biting, no eye gouges and no fish hooking. Royce, who was the smallest, beat all of his opponents. Back then you fought 3 or 4 times in a night too. What the UFC did back then was expose that other arts were not teaching techniques in how to defend from an attacker on the ground where a fight could possibly go. The UFC was the best place for someone to test their style out without having to worry about their life being endangered to do it.

The UFC only imposed restrictions like kicking to the head on the ground and other rules because laws were getting passed banning the sport. For some people it was the only place they could get into a fight and test your skills and not spend a night in jail for it. Now, with the rule changes they are sanctioned in 22 states and it's popularity is growing very fast.

BTW.. BJJ does teach knife/stick defense, they do teach gun defense they even taught defense against a Capoerista that may have a razor between it's toes (they still teach this in Brazil, lol).

These clumsy oafs are TRUE athletes and are very impressive fighters whether you like it or not. YES I am an MMA fanboy simply because I have personally met and sparred with a few of today's fighters and they are extememly good at what they do, which is fighting. These fighters not only have to worry about blocking punches and kicks, but they also have to learn how defend a ground attack from the top and the bottom, They have to learn how to defend the takedown and multiple submissions. They are more skilled than ANY boxer because of what they have to learn in order to win. Not just bobbing and weaving, proper footwork and throwing punches. It is much more complex than that.

I cannot watch the smaller shows that they have here in Utah becuase of the lack of technique I see in most fighters and fights, but the "A" level fighters in the UFC and Pride are still impressive to watch.

ChadTower:

I think there is some age / "stuck in my ways" there.  What you took effort to find in the 80s (mainly because of your age then), the creative minority, has been replaced with "what I encounter now", the noncreative majority.

When you're young everything is new and thus it feels creative.

When you're old you've seen most of it before and it takes a lot more originality to impress you.

Look at it this way... when I was young, I thought Bell Biv Devoe was the future of popular music and a brand new concept in general.   :laugh2:

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