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ChadTower:

Well, on the other hand, if tourneys and sporting rings mean nothing, what is the guy supposed to do to test himself?  Go out and start fights in the street?  Go see Johnson Family Picnic and start yelling racial slurs in the theater?    You're talking about riots and getting beaten by multiple guys with sticks and knives but how many times has that happened to you?

lordtodd75:
@ xiaou2

You sir are a moron. You don't full contact spar on the first day of a kickboxing class, at least not in any I took. You do however get to hold pads and are being conditioned from day one to take a blow. I have run across your kind before. PAMA, which is where I started my training, offered training in other less taught arts, such as JKD, silat and yes wing chun. A lot of people take there "arts" very seriously. Human ego almost forces you to believe your style is superior, if it wasn't then in a sense you have been wasting all these years of training, and noone wants to believe that. I bet when you lose a fight you have a lot of "reasons" why, you probably say "you should have won" and then point out the flaws of your opponent and his/her style. The fact of the matter is, if wing chun were superior. It would be more prevalent in the professional fight world. I have been watching pancrase, ufc, pride, etc. for years. haven't seen much wing chun.

ChadTower:

This is why I hate martial arts discussions.  99% of the time it turns into "my style is better than your style" discussions complete with insults and challenges before the first 120 seconds have elapsed.

Frankly, I don't get that.  No one dedicating substantial training time to a quality martial art is wasting their time, period.  It doesn't matter if someone else is training in another style that can do different things better or worse.  They all have merit and they are all about improving oneself.  The whole "my style can beat up your style" concept is counterproductive and really only demonstrates that the either the student doesn't learn well or the teacher does not teach well.

clanggedin:
There is no one style  that is the best.. I never said that BJJ was the only art you have to learn. There is no one art you have to learn. You need to learn a combination of arts. Someone who doesn't think they will end up on the ground one day is being ignorant, same with the person who think that they will never get jumped by a bunch of guys. That's why all of the successful guys in the UFC Pride, IFL, Etc. practice MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.

Bruce Lee was the first MMA fighter and he was shunned for it. In his book "The Tao of Jeet Kune Do" he stresses the importance of cross training becasue of all of the "watered down" styles out today. I have tried to "Take what is useful and develop it from there" like Bruce Lee said. I have Studied Kenpo, Kempo, Escrima, Muay Thai, Wing Chun, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and I still study from those are willing to teach. But the style that has helped me the most in real life situations was BJJ and that's why I defend it.

I applaud Lutus for combining his standup with ground skills it will make him a more rounded fighter, so IF by chance he is tackled he will know how to defend himself.

I'll stick with talk about martial arts on www.mma.tv and return this thread back to Lutus.

Sorry for the hijack bro.

ChadTower:

There have been "MMA" fighters for as long as there have been fighters.  The only thing new about "MMA" is the label.  For thousands of years there have been men who made their living travelling around learning from masters and challenging local champions.  There have been "professional" warriors for as long as there have been men doing the same thing.

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