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UPDATE: Started Kick-boxing MMA yesterday
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on December 18, 2006, 12:19:50 pm --- Your BJJ does not represent an art that is based on real
combat. It has no weapons training, no standup range,
no blocking, no strike training, no conditioning, no
multiple attacker training or validity. Its an immature
and limited system.. much like the people who claim its
superioity.
--- End quote ---
That's about right... dude didn't have to go off for a half hour to say "BJJ has become a specialized sport fighting style". That is what it is to most people and most teachers in the US. A quick learning method for implementing and defending submissions in a one on one combat sport.
Relax. You can't go criticizing the ego of other trainees while waving the flag of your own like that.
Xiaou2:
ChadTower,
Sorry man, but im WAY tired of these BJJ a$$es dissing other styles and
training methods. Ever listen to the UFC comentary? They insult
tradiational arts all the time. Saying that this is the first time in thousands
of years that the arts have progressed to a much higher level! What a
joke. These people need to be put in thier place, and thier high
and mighty attitudes adjusted.
ChadTower:
Their color commentary analyst is a stand up comic. Shouldn't that tell you enough?
clanggedin:
OK... I guess you know more about BJJ than I do. I guess learning Sais and Nunchakus, Chinese Broadsword will help me in the real world.
As for conditioning, BJJ is a total anerobic workout. It's llike wrestling. Some of the most well conditioned and strongest men I have ever met have been grapplers. It takes 10 years to get your Black Belt in BJJ, not 2 years like other McDojos of today.
BJJ is a high injury art?? What are you talking about?? I have never received an injury in ANY of my training, why because we teach RESTRAINT, just like you pulling punches in your sparring we restrain ourselves from going full force. LEg submissions aren't even taught unless your are a blue belt because of the high injury risk associated with them. According to studies done in 2004 most injuries 74% occured in sparring in TKD and Karate, not in BJJ.
BJJ also drills techniques. I don't know where you got your understanding of how BJJ is taught but it is severly flawed.
As for EGO... Most of your post was about how superior your style is compared to what Lutus is studying. No one asked you to post about fight science and how you can "strike like a cobra" (what ever). I didn't come on here bragging about my wins against fighters from other styles. Next time check your EGO at the door before you post.
Some of my last post was in jest. Like the while Royce Gracie thing, that was like 10 years ago. It was definately troll bait and you took it. :laugh2:
BTW... Joe Rogan won a number of full contact TKD national championships. He was even the US Open Grand Champion and now trains under BJJ Black Belt Eddie Bravo.
If you're ever in Utah.. Look us up. www.pedrosauer.com I train in the Orem School. I also go up to Jeremy Horn's gym once a month at Elite Performance. There are always top fighters up there to practice your Kung FOO on too. Rich Franklin, Travis Wiuff and sometimes Matt Hughes, Tim Silvia and Jens Pulver or you can always challenge me.
clanggedin:
OH and if you can't make it to UTAH then you can definately check out Renzo Gracies school in Manhatten. They are looking for guys to fight in the IFL. You should see how many SPORT foghters you can beat it shouldn't be too hard for you.
Jiu-Jitsu does have it's flaws, but after many years of searching for the best style for me, it ended up being BJJ.
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