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Xiaou2:

 His pic was BS and so is his point.  Where does that leave you making fun of
me?  lol

   My pics are worlds better and so is my understanding of
what is clearly visible here in my pics of
 a REAL TURBO ARCADE MACHINE RUNNNING ON A REAL LOW RES ARCADE MONITOR!!!   :angry:

 Vindication is so sweet... 
 :cheers:

  " In your face "
 
:troll:

  :P

 ;D


 

Xiaou2:

 Btw - you want to know Why Randys pic is so very differnt?

 I believe I know why...

   Because hes using a very different monitor which is higher Dot pitch and higher resolution..
and has an apature grill.     

 Because of the differed spacing of the pixels..  its probably casuing the in-between lines.

 Not to mention the title shown is probably an effect based picture.. which creates lines
by spacing appart pixels.   As seen in many of the turbo shots.

 And I asked why there was no blue pixel in his shots for a reason.  That
reason was because without it illuminated..  you cant make out where the black
lines are supposed to be and where the blue element was supposed to be.

 As seen in my pics,  you can clearly make out all the RGB elements, and the
shadowmask very clearly.    That is the reason.   For 100% certainty.  Not
100% arrogant egotistical BS.
 
Patent Doc:
Xiaou2


--- Quote ---His pic was BS and so is his point.  Where does that leave you making fun of
me?  lol

   My pics are worlds better and so is my understanding of
what is clearly visible here in my pics of
 a REAL TURBO ARCADE MACHINE RUNNNING ON A REAL LOW RES ARCADE MONITOR!!!   Angry!

 Vindication is so sweet...
 Cheers!

  " In your face "
--- End quote ---

Easy there little camper.  I seem to recall my comments said nothing about you.  Hell, I have no technical expertise in this area nor have I ever claimed to have such.  Just search every post in the forum...at best I claim LEGAL expertise.  I would NEVER try to enter into this conversation regarding the technical merits...I just don't have a basis for judging this. 

As for my comments, I merely thought Randy's comment was funny and he and Andy had nice explanations.  Try not to be so sensitive all the time.  Not everything is about you.  Your comments are hardly "in my face" nor provide "vindication" because you failed to see my comments for what they were...an appreciation of humor.

You sir are  :lame:

As for arguing the merits of comments made by Randy, Andy, or frankly anyone else on this board (as you seem to do quite often...and I notice you seem to be at odds with most, most of the time), simply saying you understand more or that someones post is BS, hardly validates your point or shows you are correct.  All hail Xiaou2 he says he's right and everyone else is worng  :notworthy:.  I mean if I went before a judge and said I'm right because his point is BS and I know more, I'd be laughed out of court.  Please, you are constantly trying to impress people on this board with how smart you are.  At least make a better effort than you just did.  Granted, you may be right here....of course you may be wrong as well.  I think your photos show scan lines, but what do I know. 

Anyway, you should really try to not take things so personally.  You may be right in this situation and you may be wrong.  The merits of the arguments made on the board will provide that answer.  I will say, that the frequency with which you seem to be the lone contervaling voice against the majority opinion on the board really works against you.  Though you may be right some of the time, you can't be right all of the time...and this tendency to always act like you're the only one who knows the right answer just hurts your argument when you may, in fact, be that person.  Randy and Andy (among others) have earned peoples respect...I think you had it at one time, but lately you really seam to be ...well... :tool: 

Patent Doc
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AndyWarne:
The scanlines are not visible because the focus is out. The focus of the red and green seem to be worse than the blue gun. The blue is showing scanlines quite clearly.
Try this: look at the screen with a magnifying glass while adjusting the focus control. There might be a point at which the red and green start to only illuminate part of the dot. The blue might then be out of focus. This means the tube is out of alignment unfortunately.
RandyT:

Steve,

I agree with your disagreement on graphic design.  Certainly the designers took advantage of the display when they could not make the hardware better than it could be at the time.  Any good artist will use the medium of the work to his / her advantage, and low-res graphic design is no exception.  A youthful pursuit of mine was to become a games graphic designer.  I even created graphics for an entire game that could probably have been considered "state of the art" at the time (not much of a statement by today's standards.)  Unfortunately the bottom fell out of the 8-bit market before it was finished. 

It is fact that using the coarse dot-pitch of the display to one's advantage was a "trick" used by virtually every professional in the field to increase the apparent resolution of their graphics.  It was mentioned in industry columns and just about every available text on the subject.  Sprite editors of the time would have two depictions of the artwork; a "graph paper" style editor that was huge, and the sprite at actual size.  Often times, a pixel of an oddball color in just the right place would have dramatic effects on the image.  But you would never want to see the actual well-defined pixel as part of the image, only the effect it had on it.

As for your vindication, I think you'll have to wait on that one.  Your monitor is showing scanlines.  You would be able to see them much better if it wasn't 20+ years old and ready for the long sleep.  Like Andy stated, it's out of focus.  Come back after you have fixed or replaced it, then try to make the same argument.  What you are doing is tantamount to stating "all cars only have one gear" because your gear shift broke off.

BTW, the shadow mask in your picture is exactly the same style as the one used in my monitor.  An "Aperture Grille" was originally a Sony technology and indicated by a very thin horizontal line at roughly 1/3 and 2/3 of the screen vertically.  Very different technology.

RandyT
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