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| shardian:
--- Quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote --->On ordering sticks/buttons etc.: >Who are the major, reputable and most cost-friendly suppliers available? --- End quote --- Check Divemaster's thread in the bst forum. He sells everything Happ sells, and shipping is very reasonable. --- Quote --->On CP buttons and sticks: >I've heard a lot of people complain about microswitch pushbuttons/joysticks due to their 'clickyness' >and recommend leaf switches in their place. is there a difference in the "feel" of the buttons? Does >one tend to be tighter/more responsive than the other? --- End quote --- Definitely a difference in feel. If you really want to know the difference, I have a 4-way wico style leaf joystick and a few leafswitch buttons you could have for next to nothing. I'll never use them. I personally prefer microswitch because I grew up in the 90's. I never used leafswitches, except for the broke down Ms. Pacman at the pizza joint. The microswitch clicky feel and associated sounds give me a sense of comfort. I have no such connection with leaf switch controls. What i am trying to say is it comes down to personal preference. --- Quote --->Joysticks are more of a concern: microswitch vs. leaf vs. optical. Does anyone know what type of >stick was used in the SF type cabs? --- End quote --- Microswitch 8-way controller with a square actuator... a Happ competition basically. I use a street fighter 8-way in a desktop cp. --- Quote --->Do the restrictor plates on micro sticks have that 'stuck in a corner' problem? --- End quote --- Depends on the actuator,which I am assuming you meant instead of the restrictor - and it isn't that bad really. For some games, it is preferrable to know when you are in the true diagonal position. |
| Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: japangreg on September 13, 2006, 12:22:22 pm ---From your replies, I think I'll be looking into upgrading the box: although I guess what Kremmit said is true (the comp can always be swapped at a later date) I'd hate to waste time trying to get that old system running correctly only to ditch it. Thanks for the pointers on cheap parts - I'm sure that'll come in handy later. --- End quote --- My advice would still be to put an old version of MAME on the current box and see how it does with one of the tougher game you would want to play. If it does fine, then you are money ahead. If it won't do what you want, you know that before you bother setting everything up only to have to reconfigure when you go to a newer MAME on a faster box. --- Quote ---Are most people just eating the cost of shipping, or are they getting their parts through another vendor (or BYOACer in the BST forum) that gets them in bulk from Happ? Who are the major, reputable and most cost-friendly suppliers available? --- End quote --- RandyT at Groovygamegear and Andy at Ultimarc (as long as they're blue) sell a line of buttons and joysticks, but they are not true Happ parts. If you want true Happ parts, you will save money buying from a re-seller. Bob Roberts - http://homearcade.org/BBBB/ http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/The_Real_Bob_Roberts has been helping people here out since before I joined the scene. Other respected sellers include Ponyboy, Divemaster (both on BYOAC), and TornadoTerry on E-bay. --- Quote ---is there a difference in the "feel" of the buttons? Does one tend to be tighter/more responsive than the other? --- End quote --- Leaf buttons were used in classic games - Joust, Defender, Donkey Kong, Asteroids. Generally, they have a lighter feel and faster response than micros. However, most fighters had micros, so if that is what you are going for, you will likely be fine with them. (And the micros work fine with the classic games, unless you're a purist - i.e. if you don't remember the leaf buttons, you won't miss them.) (Until you play on a real machine with them (j/k)) :laugh2: --- Quote ---Joysticks are more of a concern: microswitch vs. leaf vs. optical. Does anyone know what type of stick was used in the SF type cabs? --- End quote --- I am guessing either Happ Supers or P360's, but I'm not a fighter guy (classics for me). Supers and P360's have a flowing circular motion, Comps have a square restrictor so you can feel the diagonals. I think Capcom used Supers and MK used Comps, but don't know. --- Quote ---I'm looking for something that's responsive, but not with a tiny range of motion. --- End quote --- The bad thing is that will eliminate the best sticks for classic 4-way games (Donkey Kong, Pac-Man) unless you put on a dedicated stick for these. Avoid the Omni-Stick, Prodigy, Euro-Stick, Suzo 500, Mag-Stick, T-Stick, etc. if you want a large range of motion. Happ is better for this. --- Quote ---Do the restrictor plates on micro sticks have that 'stuck in a corner' problem? --- End quote --- See previous comments. --- Quote ---I like the idea of optical sticks, but feel they may be overkill for my needs (not to mention pricey). --- End quote --- Agreed. The GGG 49-Ways and the Ultimarc Universal 360's would be other options at the pricey/overkill end of the spectrum. --- Quote --- Happ competition seem to be a favorite (or was that ultimates? Have to check the notes...) Suggestions? --- End quote --- Wasn't Ultimates, very few people recommend them. |
| Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: shardian on September 13, 2006, 01:21:39 pm --->Does anyone know what type of >stick was used in the SF type cabs? Microswitch 8-way controller with a square actuator... a Happ Super basically. I use a street fighter 8-way in a desktop cp. --- End quote --- I thought Supers had a round acutuator and Comps had a square one. |
| shardian:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on September 13, 2006, 01:47:46 pm --- --- Quote from: shardian on September 13, 2006, 01:21:39 pm --->Does anyone know what type of >stick was used in the SF type cabs? Microswitch 8-way controller with a square actuator... a Happ Super basically. I use a street fighter 8-way in a desktop cp. --- End quote --- I thought Supers had a round acutuator and Comps had a square one. --- End quote --- Whoops. You are right. |
| Kremmit:
--- Quote ---Is upping the ram to 256 going to make a difference, or should I just go for a new processor? --- End quote --- --- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on September 13, 2006, 07:30:44 am ---Here I disagree with Kremmit. A processor upgrade will buy you tons more performance than a ram upgrade. TONS. Unless you have the ram sitting around or someone will donate it to you, you are throwing money away there. And mobo/processor upgrades are cheap. --- End quote --- I was ASSuming that he was staying with the same computer. I guess I consider the processor to be one of the integral parts of the computer, I didn't even consider changing it out. But you're right, a faster processor is more important than extra RAM. I'll also agree with the button and joy reccomendations so far- microswitch buttons and Happ Supers or Competitions. If Street Fighter is the game that sets the standard for you, then those are the parts you'll feel most comfortable on. |
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