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headkaze:
wtf do you add a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- load of Carriage Returns after your post Youki? That is just weird.

Anway, well I can't prove that GameEx has a larger userbase, but It's just a feeling I have. Since it covers MCE users as well as the arcade scene and it's been reviewed on some high profile sites. I would safely say it's true but I have no way of proving it to you, but at the end of the day who cares?

As for Randy chosing your FE, I have read every LEDWiz related thread on this board and he does mention that he will be using Atomic. I could be wrong about that, but again, it's not the point why is he supporting Atomic and not the rest of us?


--- Quote ---So, the question is why he has been so helpfull with me and lot of others  and not with you or howard.  I don't know....   
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This is the mystery. Perhaps he likes people who think competition is healthy for the community? Personally I think you ideals are detremental to the scene. I think your more interested in your own ego and getting more users using Atomic than the scene as a whole. Not everyone here thinks like that. And I don't accociate myself with howard, but feel free to read the numerous posts where Randy and Howard go neck to neck. It's quite a amusing! And half the time Howard is ---smurfing--- right, and that is saying something!
youki:

--- Quote ---wtf do you add a ---Cleveland steamer--- load of Carriage Returns after your post Youki? That is just weird.
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Sorry, i removed the carriage returns.


--- Quote ---Since it covers MCE users as well as the arcade scene
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My feeling, is that is has more user on the MCE side than in the Arcade scene. But it is just a feeling too.


--- Quote ---I think your more interested in your own ego and getting more users using Atomic than the scene as a whole
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Yes, it is my satisfaction to have more user , it motives me. You can call that ego.   But i do more on  the scene by keeping my FE totally free... then others...  that's my point of view. I know you disagree.

Headkaze, i could be wrong, but i saw a post somewhere few time ago  . Don't remember where, may be here or on GameEX forum.  Where it was written you have been paid by tom (150$ if i remember well) to develop the GameEX layout editor? Is it true?   I'm not sure to ask money for development is healthy for the community.


headkaze:
Youki you such fool. Your wrong about that ---Cleveland steamer--- with the layout editor so stop trying to troll this thread.

Lets get back on topic, which is the LEDWiz dancing to music if you rememer.
RandyT:

--- Quote from: headkaze on November 28, 2006, 09:44:23 am ---As for Randy chosing your FE, I have read every LEDWiz related thread on this board and he does mention that he will be using Atomic. I could be wrong about that, but again, it's not the point why is he supporting Atomic and not the rest of us?

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I like AtomicFE and I like the way Youki supports his users.  I have seen him appear to drop what he was doing and write special programs for them at no charge because of something special they wanted to do with their system.  I have seen no other developer (other than MikeQ) who exhibits this level of selfless personal dedication to their users.  I have developed relationships with these two folks and personally like them.  And because of that, I do what I can for them (and if you saw my to do list, you might appreciate the effort that requires on my part.)

I'm trying to keep this post positive, so I will not get into all of the negatives that have affected my decisions about how to spend my already too limited time, and whom I choose to spend it on. 

On a related note, the OCX does not "suck big balls" and I spent considerable time making and documenting it.  The software in the video of the lights reacting to the music is, in fact, using it to communicate with the hardware.  The reason that no other DLL is necessary is, as you already know, because MikeQ has already provided one for all to use, free of charge.

As for my FE "selection", I don't even have a dedicated "play" machine (it's a test rig.) So when I am testing something, I need to get to it fast, and that means a mouse driven Windows interface works the best.  But if and when I do set up a small unit dedicated to "fun", it will most likely run AtomicFE, so it would be nice if it worked with my hardware :)


--- Quote ---This is the mystery. Perhaps he likes people who think competition is healthy for the community? Personally I think you ideals are detremental to the scene. I think your more interested in your own ego and getting more users using Atomic than the scene as a whole. Not everyone here thinks like that. And I don't accociate myself with howard, but feel free to read the numerous posts where Randy and Howard go neck to neck. It's quite a amusing! And half the time Howard is ---smurfing--- right, and that is saying something!

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I won't address the comment about Howard and I, other than to say that we are in disagreement.  Again, trying to stay positive.

There is healthy competition where everyone has the potential to gain and there is competition that is overtly detrimental.  Writing any piece of software is long and arduous work, and when you receive no compensation, the only reward is the gratitude of your user base.  How is it wrong to want to expand the user base for a piece of software you work so very hard on and receive no compensation for?  Why is is wrong or "detrimental to the scene" to feel that software which withholds desirable features or support priority from users unless they pay for it is a commercial endeavor?  Why is it wrong to have the prerogative not to directly support a competing venture one views as a commercial endeavor?  And please understand, I have nothing at all against commercial endeavors.  :)  That is all I take with me from the comments I have seen Youki make that could be considered even remotely "competitive".

Let me just say one more time that the efforts of all those involved in adding support for GGG hardware are very much appreciated.  But I'd also like to state that I am not so naive as to believe that it is being done to benefit me.  I provide as much assistance as I can, given my time constraints, and as much as I am allowed given business constraints.  The availability of free programming tools and documentation is support of that fact.  When I am pushed for more than I am freely willing or able to give, individuals just have to realize that many things are rightfully taken into consideration when deciding whether I have the time or desire to facilitate them.

RandyT


headkaze:
Randy I appreciate your reply, but one simple thing is, since you are here right now how come you havn't replied to my two e-mails to you (15/11/2006 and 27/11/2006) in regard to writing software for your hardware. I am busting my balls trying to support hardware I don't even own and don't even care to own. I am writing this plugin to support people who want to use LEDWiz with GameEx and I hope I can help out my good friend loadman and his endevour to support Mala users.

How about a bit of support man? Why are you so closely guarding your beat detecting code, I mean comon man are you entering the karaoke business or what? Why is it so special to you? I have given loadman my "sacred" code for the LEDWiz attract mode in my LEDWiz plugin. So damn what? Who cares, I don't think my code is special, I want to help out my fellow friends in this scene. Stop being weird about things and send me your audio LEDWiz code so we can write some damn plugins to do the same and sell you some LEDWiz units at the same time. Don't you see what's going on here? We are developers writing code for nothing in our free time to support your hardware. Show some respect man. I do this for fun, not for money, I havn't made a cent out of it, so lets get real man.

If you really are this protective over your source for this, fair enough I don't want to steal your hard work. But remember this we are coding to support your hardware for free. And you being secretive about your algs for audio is only making our plugins supporting your hardware less than they could be. I don't know what to say other than that, keep shooting yourself in the foot, but it's not cool dude.

Hey I love your hardware, and I think your a top bloke, but lets be real.. give up some support good fella!
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