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PS3 pulling a Saturn?
pointdablame:
--- Quote from: Otraotaku on September 05, 2006, 10:34:43 am ---i stated this in this Thread already that IGN is Sony Freindly. focused towards the PS2 source more than anything else. most of the time PS2 gets the main page/poll's and the most amount of editors
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Then use Metacritic as a guide... which by its definition should flatten out any bias across the sites/critics/boards.
Games at 90 or above on MetaCritic:
PS2 - 60
Gamecube - 25
It doesn't matter if *I* like a game, or *you* like a game... that's a person's opinion. The best, and only, way to determine the quality of a game you have not played is to look across the board at as many other opinions as you can and try to find the average of the collective scores.
GTA is a great game. Chad hates it... but that doesn't make it a bad game... it means HE doesn't like it. I do. Seperately, neither Chad's or my opinion means a damn thing to anyone else. It's only when you take a collective average that you see any meaningful information.
It's not strictly opinion that there are more "good" games on the PS2 than the Cube... there are statistics behind it. Yes, I know... you can make the argument that everyone that said a game is good is wrong... or is only listening to one person, or that they just "want" it to be a great game. But that is a skewed argument in and of itself. Every critic will not be wrong on every game for a system to the point that it looks like there are better reviewed games on one system compared to another.
The fact is... the industry and consumers feel that there were more great games on the PS2 then there were on the Gamecube.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 04, 2006, 09:01:36 pm ---
You win because I'm not reading that.
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If it's any consolation I'm also right.
Otraotaku:
--- Quote from: pointdablame on September 05, 2006, 12:27:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Otraotaku on September 05, 2006, 10:34:43 am ---i stated this in this Thread already that IGN is Sony Freindly. focused towards the PS2 source more than anything else. most of the time PS2 gets the main page/poll's and the most amount of editors
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Then use Metacritic as a guide... which by its definition should flatten out any bias across the sites/critics/boards.
Games at 90 or above on MetaCritic:
PS2 - 60
Gamecube - 25
It doesn't matter if *I* like a game, or *you* like a game... that's a person's opinion. The best, and only, way to determine the quality of a game you have not played is to look across the board at as many other opinions as you can and try to find the average of the collective scores.
GTA is a great game. Chad hates it... but that doesn't make it a bad game... it means HE doesn't like it. I do. Seperately, neither Chad's or my opinion means a damn thing to anyone else. It's only when you take a collective average that you see any meaningful information.
It's not strictly opinion that there are more "good" games on the PS2 than the Cube... there are statistics behind it. Yes, I know... you can make the argument that everyone that said a game is good is wrong... or is only listening to one person, or that they just "want" it to be a great game. But that is a skewed argument in and of itself. Every critic will not be wrong on every game for a system to the point that it looks like there are better reviewed games on one system compared to another.
The fact is... the industry and consumers feel that there were more great games on the PS2 then there were on the Gamecube.
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thats mainly because Nintendo lost alot of their 3rd party support to PS2(for alot of reasons), many games either end up on the PS2, or are ported from other consoles to the PS2. they also have a larger list 3rd party companys in the US. like i said before the prices on used games speak for themself
shmokes:
Exactly! Nintendo lost their 3rd party support to Sony. That's what I, and more recently pointdablame, have been trying to say.
It doesn't matter how much you worship the ground Nintendo walks on. I've said it a hundred times, Nintendo is my favorite videogame company. But that doesn't change the fact that both the PS1 and the PS2 had a considerably larger number of great games made for them than their Nintendo counterparts.
As Bon Jovi once said, "No videogame console is an island." Even as the greatest game developer on the planet (Nintendo) cannot release more than a few games per year. Without the help of 3rd parties they cannot adequately represent every important genre. They need 3rd parties. For the last two generations they haven't had them. Sony has. That's why Sony has more great games. The only thing Sony doesn't have, really, is Nintendo (which, frankly, is why I own a Gamecube and not a PS2, in spite of the much smaller number of great games). Well, and they don't have the Gamecube controller, which is light-years better than the lame-ass PSX/PS2 controller.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: shmokes on September 06, 2006, 10:28:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 04, 2006, 09:01:36 pm ---
You win because I'm not reading that.
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If it's any consolation I'm also right.
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Dude, seriously... even when someone comes right out and says "you win", you still have to argue with them?