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PS3 pulling a Saturn?
elvis:
--- Quote from: shmokes on August 29, 2006, 12:36:04 am ---- There were more great games for PS2 than any of its competitors (because of the highest level of 3rd party support and exclusives).
- People play GTA because they're great games.
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Subjective statements ahoy!
I personally hate GTA games. They bore me shitless. Last I checked I am a "person" and a member of this "people" group you refer to, yet I don't buy GTA games, nor do I consider them great.
Careful with your blanket statments, friend. Be equally as careful with your posts filled with "internet evidence".
shmokes:
Okay . . . here's some more "internet evidence"
Number of games that received a Gamespot review of 9.0 out of 10 or better:
Gamecube: 19
PS2: 58 (one actually got a 10)
Number of games that received an IGN review of 9.0 out of 10 or better:
Gamecube: 44
PS2: 131
Maybe you don't like either of those publications. Whatever. Find another one that isn't run by fanboys (or employees) of a specific company. Find another website that reviews games from all three systems and you're going to see similar ratios. For god's sake. This is coming from an owner of a Gamecube and an Xbox, who has played probably fewer than five hours of PS2 in his life. Look at those numbers. They're consistent from one website to another. They are not in cahoots. They aren't paid by Sony. They rate ---smurfy--- Sony games 2's and 3's just like they rate ---smurfy--- Nintendo games 2's and 3's. They're just honestly reviewing games. Sony doesn't just have a higher number than Nintendo. They have WAY MORE great games.
Seriously, don't talk to me about objective/subjective. Grand Theft Auto is a great game. That's objective. You don't like Grand Theft Auto. THAT'S subjective. I can admit that Miles Davis is a great musician, even if jazz doesn't really float my boat.
And, while maybe you're just an anomaly there are exactly two types of gamers that I have met who don't like GTA. One is the person who is offended by the violent/sexual/profane content. That's fine. The other is the person who played it a bit, probably at a friend's house, and just drove around doing random things like shooting people and stealing cars -- which gets boring fast. If you haven't actually started at the beginning of the game and played through it, though, actually playing the missions and playing through the story, you're missing out on some of the best-written adventure games in history. And aside from the writing, the gameplay and scenarios are just top notch.
BTW, I apologize for confusing you with my sweeping generalization. Let me clarify. When I said, "People play GTA because they're great games," what I meant to say was, "People play GTA because they're great games.* " Sorry about that.
*This statement does not refer to people who don't play GTA.
ChadTower:
IGN is not much of an unbiased source. There can't even be one when it's all opinion.
GTA is crap. That's one of the few games out of my preference that I gave a real shot to... GTA3. It was boring after 15 minutes, 90 minutes, and after two hours I was completely tired of it.
shmokes:
Having an opinion isn't bias. Rating a game favorably doesn't automatically constitue bias. You might have rated it favorably cos it was a good game. Rating a game favorably on the basis of it being made for Playstation or on the basis of the main character being Link would be bias. These people are hardcore gamers. They rate games well because they sincerely like them. They rate them poorly because they sincerely dislike them. Obviously everybody has some latent bias in them, but the ratings are too consistent and spread out over too many reviewers to seriously pass it off as merely Sony bias that is producing all these good reviews.
SithMaster:
when i write words they dont always make sense to "outsiders" ;)
based on the review ratios you gave i checked to see how many were sports (from 9 to 10) and there were non except some 8.9 but most were 6 or less. that really surprised me. i went to ign as you did and i guess there are games on the ps2 i never considered to be good before. i still might not consider them to be good but i will check out the library.
but i think the main point is who will spend 600 and up for a console. and why would someone buy a system that is crippled? when a game comes out that they want to get but cant play since the sd slot isnt there then what? sales will be lost unless another one is made that doesnt require the slot but then people will feel like its not worth it since you cant play it the way it was meant to be played.
so its not like saturn at all really. the ps3 has its own problem to answer the orig question.