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| bvicarious:
What is the difference between a 'dedicated 4-way' and an 8-way with a restrictor plate, mechanically? I thought the only thing that defined a 4-way joystick was the physical restriction from hitting the corners. I've played pacman with a T-stik plus in 8-way mode and couldn't play for ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, switched it to 4-way and it played like a charm. Then I forgot it was in 4-way mode when I started playing Street Fighter 2, and it frustrated me greatly. |
| Kremmit:
--- Quote from: Boris the Spider on August 30, 2006, 11:11:28 pm ---Oh man! Just when I thought I had it figured out. I forgot to consider what you mentioned about games that don't play right with an 8-way. Your talking about games like time pilot right? Where you need to have full motion? --- End quote --- Nope, Time Pilot uses an 8-way. Specifically, a Monroe joystick, which is a round-restricted 8-way, so a Wico 8 should work fine, as it's also a round-restricted 8-way. I was thinking of games like SiniStar, I Robot, Road Runner, Star Wars, Food Fight, etc- games that need the analog stick's higher resolution to play right. --- Quote ---With that said, I guess I'm looking a dedicated wico 4-way for each player, and then a Ultra 360 for each also. On the third panel, I'm going to try to fit two Ultra 360s and one wico 4-way in the middle.]With that said, I guess I'm looking a dedicated wico 4-way for each player, and then a Ultra 360 for each also. On the third panel, I'm going to try to fit two Ultra 360s and one wico 4-way in the middle. --- End quote --- That should work fine. There'll still be a (very limited) # of joystick games that won't play right, but there always are unless you build a giant frankenpanel with 20 different controllers on it, or get into swapable panels or modular setups. For instance, you can't play 2-player Smash TV, Karate Champ, or Ikari Warriors on that setup. --- Quote ---I just picked up a box of 20 Wicos on ebay ... Are parts available for Wicos or swappable from other manufacturers? --- End quote --- None of the parts are interchangeable with any other sticks, except the handles, which will swap with a P360- but why would you want to put a p360 handle on a Wico? Nobody makes parts for them anymore, either. However, replacement handles, small springs, and actuators are available from Ponyboy dirt cheap. Ponyboy also has nice new replacement grommets, they feel softer than the stock ones but a lot of people don't mind that. E-clips can be had at any decent hardware store. Empty 4-way bases turn up on ebay from time to time, and peope here have been known to do trades as well. The leafswitches, those are the real buggers. I'm not aware of any source for them. --- Quote from: bvicarious on August 31, 2006, 12:10:20 am ---What is the difference between a 'dedicated 4-way' and an 8-way with a restrictor plate, mechanically? I thought the only thing that defined a 4-way joystick was the physical restriction from hitting the corners. --- End quote --- There's no difference really, except you can remove/rotate the restrictor plate and change it back to 8-way. That's why a lot of people like the Prodigy/T-Stick/Mag-Stick options- you don't have to have a 4-way AND an 8-way on your panel. Not everybody likes the feel on those sticks, though- they've got square restriction, clicky microswitches, stiff springs, and a very short throw. Comes down to personal preference, in the end. |
| bvicarious:
isn't there a restrictor plate for j-sticks/happ supers/competitions et c. that force the joystick to slide along diagonals instead of in a circle, achieving 4-way control with light action and long throw? I thought I saw something like this awhile ago, sort of like a q-bert joystick. |
| Kremmit:
Oscar Controls used to sell those restrictor plates. It's been years since they were available now. |
| Boris the Spider:
--- Quote from: Kremmit on August 27, 2006, 06:05:38 pm ---A Wico 8-way, of course! ;D Or a 49-way, Ultimarc 360, Perfect360, or Suzo Inductive. The Wico would be the best match, but the 49-way or U360 would also allow you to play additional games that just don't work right with an 8-way, so you might be willing to give up the exact match for the added capabilities. Best arguement for the P360 or Suzo is that they're still available new, so you won't have to hunt for them, and you won't have to buy used. The P360 will take a Wico handle, so you can get a handle match with your 4-way Wico if you go that route. --- End quote --- I wanted to do a search on MAWS for all the vertical games that need full motion like the ones you metioned...Sinistar etc...but can't find how to search for optical joystick games. The options are 2-way, 4-way, 8-way..etc but I don't see an option to search for the types of games your refering to. Any suggestions? Id like to see a list of the vertical games that need an optical joystick to decide if its needed on my head-to-head sides of the table. |
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