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Newbie saying Hi and a couple of questions. :-)
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rlemmon:
If i were you i would ditch the x arcade parts if i could. The are not as accurate as other controls. Ultimarc makes great sicks and you can never go wrong with happ buttons.
NickG:
Yeah, what Tiger-Heli said.

  I play a few of games with the wrong controls - good thing about BYOACing.
 
  I like the pop-out steering wheel idea;  I have been planning to (ab)use my spinner for other types of games, too.  I am going to try to build a steering wheel assembly that clamps down on my CP and connect it to my spinner knob with a belt drive, or an alternative steering wheel sized knob.  BTW, the axis can be reversed on some spinners by setting up a DPDT on the signal lines.
Tilzs:
If you aren't crazy about games with certain controls then I wouldn't worry too much about playing them on controls different from the original. There are so many games that you probably won't play them much anyhow. You are going to be better off concentrating on controls for the games you like since it'll make your cab simplier, cleaner and cheaper
TroyO:

--- Quote from: NightGod on August 17, 2006, 10:21:25 pm ---Tron Joysticks.

That's all I have to say.

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Looking at it, it wouldn't be too hard to replicate except for the translucent color. That could be done, but I don't have a good high vacuum pump (yet) to get out the bubbles. (Tinting clear resin isn't too hard, although some would always think it too light or too dark probably. It's the bubbles that'll kill ya.) My casting skills would only be able to do the plastic parts, the rest would be up to the buyer. If there was a need for a opaque one with the same form that just fit a 1/2" shaft it would be a fairly easy project.. assuming I could get my hands on an original.


--- Quote from: rlemmon on August 17, 2006, 11:44:47 pm ---If i were you i would ditch the x arcade parts if i could. The are not as accurate as other controls. Ultimarc makes great sicks and you can never go wrong with happ buttons.

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Yeah, I know some don't like the X-arcade controls but the big issue is the "feel" of them, not durability as far as I can tell. I don't have a huge history to overcome, so any control will feel weird until I get used to it. It gives me a starting place anyway.

On to the 270/360 wheel concept... I think I have this one licked. I was at the hardware store and picked up some parts but the idea is to have  a solidly mounted steering wheel with a permenant rotary encoder (probably a mouse hack) and a combo limiter/centering spring/pot that engages with a lever.

It shouldn't hurt to keep the rotary encoder engaged while playing games that don't use that control, right? That's about the only thing I can think of that would put a hitch in it.

FWIW the idea is to use only readily available hardware parts and a common analogue wheel to pull it off. In this case it's a Logitech GP racing wheel (Not the force model) but the concept should apply to any wheel. I'll post more as the stuff comes in and I can better figure out if I can really do it.
Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: TroyO on August 18, 2006, 10:55:51 am ---
--- Quote from: NightGod on August 17, 2006, 10:21:25 pm ---Tron Joysticks.

That's all I have to say.

--- End quote ---

Looking at it, it wouldn't be too hard to replicate except for the translucent color. That could be done, but I don't have a good high vacuum pump (yet) to get out the bubbles. (Tinting clear resin isn't too hard, although some would always think it too light or too dark probably. It's the bubbles that'll kill ya.) My casting skills would only be able to do the plastic parts, the rest would be up to the buyer. If there was a need for a opaque one with the same form that just fit a 1/2" shaft it would be a fairly easy project.. assuming I could get my hands on an original.

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Your newness is leading you down the wrong path here.

Nightgod isn't referring to the appearance of the joystick - (BTW, FozzyTheBear is already working on making exact replica handles).

The Tron joystick was a 4-way leaf joystick (with the typical diamond shaped restrictor to keep you from hitting diagonals), but it used an oversized actuator that made it possible to hit the diagonals if you really tried.  The stick needs to be a 4-way stick for the light cycles and tanks stages, but an 8-way for the light tunnel and ants stages.

Pretty tough to pull off with any other stick, although the GGG 49-way does a pretty good job of it, from what I've read.

--- Quote ---Yeah, I know some don't like the X-arcade controls but the big issue is the "feel" of them, not durability as far as I can tell. I don't have a huge history to overcome, so any control will feel weird until I get used to it. It gives me a starting place anyway.

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Again, you don't know how much you don't know.  Trust me on this.  I played MAME for years with a PC flightstick and thought it was just fine UNTIL I got some real arcade controls.

--- Quote ---It shouldn't hurt to keep the rotary encoder engaged while playing games that don't use that control, right? That's about the only thing I can think of that would put a hitch in it.

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Not in MAME - AFAIK.  Might be a problem in other games as they might see two wheels connected.

Sounds like a cool concept, keep us posted - BTW, Xiou2 (sp?) had some similar concepts if you want to search the archives.
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