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| KevSteele:
You know, I'm sure there are a lot of us who would donate pics of our first cab to a "Crapmame"-type site, as long as we were in on the joke, and could chime in on what we think our worst design decisions were and what we would do differently now. If you can't laugh at your own mistakes, you aren't learning... Kevin |
| Xiaou2:
Surely theres nothing wrong with learning to laugh at yourself.. but to have someone trash you vindictivly is another story. Which is basically what that guy is doing. These arnt constructive critiques. They are filled with personal and negative slams. This is simular to your 2nd grader turning in thier art project and the teacher Laughs at them, makes fun of how poorly its drawn, calls the kid names, uses profanity..etc. Maybe thats what you do when your kids show thier art to you KEV? Everyone does certain things for various reasons. Some things are tests.. some are done to lack of funds, some to do with creativity levels, time, space, etc. And many of these may ne first time builds.. in which case, people are struggling just to cut the pieces and are lucky to arrive at anything that resembles a cab. In the one example, a guy put his trackball to the far left.. which actually is better than most cabs that put it in the center.. croweded by other sticks, and when they spin it hard... slam thier hands into the monitor glass (or nearby sticks). THe distiance from the person the the montor really wasnt that far to see. While its not exactly what I would do.. I dont think its that bad at all really. But even IF I did, Im not a 30yr old baby that has to put up a webpage to insult others efforts and Past desigions. I think the REAL LAUGH is the person who made that site. Its him who needs the most GROWING UP to do. |
| Hoopz:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on August 05, 2006, 02:40:20 pm ---I think the REAL LAUGH is the person who made that site. Its him who needs the most GROWING UP to do. --- End quote --- Yes, and anyone who thinks they have the right to judge without knowing all the facts. |
| Xiaou2:
The facts are plain as day.. for all to see on the site. Judge not, least ye be judged yourself. Basically, if you wana start some SH*T, then expect it in return. |
| DaveMMR:
You know what's funny? When this site gets mentioned in EE, everyone seems to take it more as a joke. --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on August 05, 2006, 02:40:20 pm --- In the one example, a guy put his trackball to the far left.. which actually is better than most cabs that put it in the center.. --- End quote --- Are you referring to Pac-Matt (and, Matt, if you're reading this, sorry to drag you into this - just using as a reference and not as an attack on you)? His track ball was to the far right. And no, it's not better than it being in the middle. Slightly to the left or right - that's fine - but not a good foot away from the right most edge of the screen. That's just completely useless. I will tell you that I laughed a lot at that site. I'm not defending or denoucing it, because it's his space and his opinions. Now here's my opinion: I agree most with the crapmame site when it blasts bad control layout. I could overlook poor craftmanship, a small monitor or bad, pseudo-artwork. But when laying out controls, there's a finite number of ways of doing it properly. Some of the examples had buttons just spewed out randomly, or had the buttons laid out vertically or had the second player's controls backwards or had everything drowning in a sea of unnessary admin/mouse/secondary buttons. I never understood the desire to be 'creative' with layouts - you can't go wrong with buttons laid out straight and the bare minimum of admin buttons. The artwork is the "artwork", not the controls. And, contrary to popular belief, you don't need to stick every single type of control on a panel. You will get a great deal of enjoyment from your machine even if it had nothing but joysticks. Otherwise, make the panels swappable or create a tasteful Franken-panel that's deeper, not wider. Yes the Crapmame site can be mean (and funny), but I think it can serve as a valuable lesson to those who are starting out. If you don't like his humor, at least skip to the bottom of his last page - it has some very useful tips. (EDIT: I corrected "Not" to say "Now", nothing else, lest anyone thinks I reedited this post to make myself appear 'less harsh' in my opinion. Read following threads for more info.) |
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