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| mark shaker:
--- Quote from: arcadepcnut on July 06, 2006, 09:37:54 pm ---Why do I need to sell the happ wheel Force feedback and get a 270 wheel? I can do the modifications to make the happ force feedback a 270. Also...you say you use happ force feedback with burnout series. How did you go about doing that? --- End quote --- I think that it would be a lot of work to remove the force feedback and install a self centering device, and the results would not be as good as a Happ 270 degree wheel. Take a look at the exploded drawing of the Happ 270 degree wheel. To get the proper feel, the springs do not act directly on the wheel, they act on two bars. The bars in turn act on an offset cam on the wheel. Correction: Happ's exploded view does a very poor job of showing how the 270 degree wheel works. It uses 1 spring to hold a bar against an offset cam on the steering wheel's shaft. If indeed the X-Box does not support Force Feedback, then your only choices are using PS2 and/or PC. Luckily the Happ Active Wheel / Driving Force hack works with both. I invented the Happ Active Wheel / Driving Force hack. Here is my write up: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/mshaker/marks_arcade_006.htm - Mark |
| Wicked:
If you are willing to wait, microsoft has a force feedback wheel for xbox 360 coming out in the very near future |
| versapak:
--- Quote from: Wicked on July 06, 2006, 10:24:08 pm ---If you are willing to wait, microsoft has a force feedback wheel for xbox 360 coming out in the very near future --- End quote --- That won't work on an Xbox though, and probably won't add anything to the backward compatible games that are working on the 360. Like I said, in my other post... The Fanatec wheel does have motor driven feedback. It techincally kicks the wheel just like the driving force pro does. It just doesn't do it with specific force data. When you are using the Driving Force Pro with Gran Turismo 4, you can actually feel the aspects of the road, and the forces of the car, the varying resistance on the wheel in turns at different speeds. You don't have that kind of realistic feedback with the Fanatec wheel, but it does do a pretty good job at faking it (after all the controller rumble that it is basing its forces off of are also related to your gameplay, just not to as detailed an extent as what you get with PS2 or PC force feedback). I too love the racers on the Xbox (Forza, PGR3, OutRun 2, RalliSport Challenge 2), and the Fanatec wheel does add greatly to the experience of all of them. |
| arcadepcnut:
thanks for all the replies! I got a deal on the happ arcade wheel with force feedback. I got it and a shifter for $50. So If I cant utilize the force feedback I'll just make it into a 270 wheel. Two springs and a tab will do it since thats the way my mc2 wheel works and its fine except flimsy and worn out. The fantec wheel seems like one to convert. Do you think it can convert like marks conversion or similar? Should I just bit the bullet and see? The xbox racers really beat the ps2 plus the graphics are more arcade like so there is no chance of me converting to ps2 games in my cab. I have a ps2 but GT4 alone isnt worth it. I am playing flatout2 on my cab now and flat out enjoying it. Im going to hunt for this fantec wheel. Anyone have any pictures of it apart? Anyone have any suggestions on where to locate the buttons formerly on the steering wheel? |
| arcadepcnut:
Update: just bought a fanatec speedster 3 force racing wheel for $45 on ebay. I will report back when I get it an rip into it. thanks all for the help on suggesting this wheel. Sounds like a perfect candidate for using with the happ force feedback if indeed this wheel has the same sort of motor. mark... thanks for the writeup. your writeup was indeed what I was referring to in my first post. not trying to take credit away from you. The ps2/pc is just not an option for me. I have about 50 xbox racing games and most are arcade feeling already on the xbox so it just feels natural playing xbox racing games in a sitdown racing cabinet. Would you be willing to help me convert this wheel over giving you credit of course. Im just not sure what kind of brushless servo amplifier will be needed to get the proper power to the happ force feedback wheel. |
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