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| 1UP:
--- Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on March 15, 2003, 12:27:43 am ---Hey 1-up can the stick be broken down to just the shaft and handle? In other words could a ball top shaft be fabricated or is the shaft non removable? --- End quote --- Yes, the stick is secured by an e-ring much like those on Happ joysticks. You can remove the stick easily for replacing the very rigid spring with a looser one, for example (which I have done and recommend highly -- read this thread for more info!) --- Quote ---Does anyone have that information ? Both Happ's universal joystick and Ultimarc's e-stick looks the same, but I've searched everywhere (I think...) and cannot find an answer. Does Happ's universal joystick's switch plate can also rotate 45 degrees ? --- End quote --- I can't personally verify that, but I've been told that the Universal stick does have the same rotating switchplate feature, as well as the 4-8 way restrictor plate, just like the e-stick. |
| Mamezilla:
--- Quote from: 1UP on March 15, 2003, 11:44:28 pm --- --- Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on March 15, 2003, 12:27:43 am ---Hey 1-up can the stick be broken down to just the shaft and handle? In other words could a ball top shaft be fabricated or is the shaft non removable? --- End quote --- Yes, the stick is secured by an e-ring much like those on Happ joysticks. You can remove the stick easily for replacing the very rigid spring with a looser one, for example (which I have done and recommend highly -- read this thread for more info!) --- Quote ---Does anyone have that information ? Both Happ's universal joystick and Ultimarc's e-stick looks the same, but I've searched everywhere (I think...) and cannot find an answer. Does Happ's universal joystick's switch plate can also rotate 45 degrees ? --- End quote --- I can't personally verify that, but I've been told that the Universal stick does have the same rotating switchplate feature, as well as the 4-8 way restrictor plate, just like the e-stick. --- End quote --- Thank you |
| Mamezilla:
I e-mailed directly Happ and ask them if the switch plate on their universal joystick can rotate 45 degrees. Here's their reply: --- Quote ---The universal does have a disk that can be rotated to change the JS from 4 way to 8 way. There are only two settings. With 8 way you can go on the diagonals. With 4 way you can not. Thanks, --- End quote --- So it looks like only Andy's e-sticks can do that. |
| 1UP:
Well, i think it was actually Andy who told me the Universal had the same rotating plate. Either that or someone else that had one on BYOAC. Just look at the exploded view on the Happ site -- all the same parts are there... But people seem to get confused between the rotating restrictor, and the rotating switchplate. Just read above! ;D I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Happ got confused too. But the 2 sticks are almost identical, and if the switchplate doesn't rotate, you can always rotate the whole thing like Smittydc... |
| saint:
Hey 1UP :) As Andy said above, "The design of the stick is that the switch-plate is a bayonet fittlng on the body. It is placed on and turned to lock into place. It needs considerable force to lock properly (I think some people don't turn it hard enough). But you can still use the stick without locking it all the way round. Although this is not the design intention, it seems quite secure." I checked mine, which I had been rotating 45 degrees as you have pictured and sure enough I didn't have mine snapped into place properly. Once I did so, it is impossible to rotate the switch-plate without rotating the base of the joystick as well. It took considerable force to unlock the bayonet fitting from the body. When I tested the E-Stik "loosely fitted" for easy 45 degree turning, I was not able to get it to reliably rotate. I tried varying degrees of pressure on the nut that tightens it down to the CP without finding a good balance. I was wondering if your experiences are similar or if you've done any additional playing with it once Andy clarified it's intended (locked down) operation? --- saint --- Quote from: 1UP on March 13, 2003, 12:20:05 am --- --- Quote ---When you rotate the switch plate to a 45 degree position, does the top fascia plate turn with it? --- End quote --- In a word, no. This should explain things better: Here are the parts. There's the stick and top mounting assembly, the mounting nut and a rubber washer, and the switch plate (with switches and 4-8 way restrictor mounted.) Now the rubber grommet is obviously there for something, and that's to provide friction to keep the mounting assembly from rotating on the panel. Here we can see the two studs underneath the top mounting plate. These would fit into... Two similar sized notches in the sides of your mounting hole. Since the studs fit into the notches, the top mounting plate lies flat on the control panel. If your mounting plate is "floating" above the panel, you've done it wrong. Here you can see the basic parts fitted together, as if they were mounted on a 3/4" panel. The arrow shows the groove that runs around the base of the mounting shaft. This is where the switch plate is mounted. The groove allows the switch plate to travel 45 degrees around the mounting shaft, which should be stationary when mounted to the CP. Here are the various modes possible with the E-stick. Normally, you have the restrictor positioned in 8-way mode, and the switch plate is not rotated. The second photo shows 4-way mode, with the restrictor rotated 90 degrees, blocking the diagonals. The third photo shows 4-way diagonal mode, where the restrictor is still rotated as in the second photo, but now the switch plate is also rotated 45 degrees, causing the stick to act as a rotated 4-way. Note that the top mounting plate is still in the same postion at all times. Now, the more I think about it, I don't think Smittydc's idea is all that bad, but I would want something more "automatic" to help locate the proper rotated joystick postion. You could easily modify the normal mounting notches by making another set in the lexan, offset by 45 degrees, then rounding off the piece of plastic between the two. This would ensure that the stick would not rotate more than 45 degrees before clicking into place on the other side of the rounded divider! This method has the added advantage that the mount doesn't rely strictly on the friction of a partially-tightened nut to prevent the stick from rotating accidentally. The only problem I could see is that the top mounting plate would eventually wear a circle into the surface of the lexan, which might not look all that pretty to the more picky among us (like me!) Hope this clears up all the confusion! (No confusion here though, I knew what you were all asking, but it's hard to explain unless you have the stick to play with! ;) ) --- End quote --- |
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