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FE reccomendations with Multi Emus and Johnny5/CPviewer
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loadman:
I don't want to play anymore...   :-X
unclet:
Ouch .... you are rather picky.

Based on the poster's reply (ie: "Great!") ...... I would assume he understood and appreciated my answers.   Every question someone asks is not as black and white as you are implying.   Providing little bits of information which people did not explicitly ask for is sometimes helpful.   Gets a person to think about different possibilities and could actually lead them down a new path to discover new things and make better decisions.

1) I know you love the Wiki, but instead of looking at the Wiki and just finding out what frontend supports what features, I think the person who started this thread was asking people (who actually used the frontend software) how they worked.   As far as I know (I could be wrong....) the Wiki does not include a frontend ranking system, so getting opinions as to which frontend someone thinks is better can not be found there.  Installing MameWah to just try it out could be a real pain and waste of time if there might be a better alternative out there.   Not to say MameWah is a bad application ... because it is not, I just found that Mala has more features which I required and in my opinion (and many others in this forum) it is easier to set up due to the nice GUI it offers.   I was kind of just pointing out that MALA existed, which they might not have even heard about yet, sinc they were looking for ease of use .... and so many people on this forum complain about how hard it is getting MameWah going from scratch.   Also, I did mention that I never tried AtomicFE.

2) He clearly wanted a choice to be made .... not get an "either" response.   Most people here use command line Mame for frontends, so that is what I recommended.  No need to use Mame32 if you never plan on using the GUI part.

3) Based on readings (I believe from Howard's J5 forum), I believe it was stated that Johnny5 works better with command line Mame rather than Mame32.   I believe the question which was asked was to decide which version of Mame (command line or Mame32) to use.   Since J5 indicated it is easier (and better) to go with command line Mame, this is how I answered.    I would not appreciate an answer of "either" when the creator of J5 indicated command line Mame would be better.   

I would not consider CPViewer to be more stable than J5 or easier to use.  I like the CPViewer software, but both CPViewer and J5 took me about 5 minutes to set up and configure.  Also, I believe the poster was indicating he did not want to have to push a button while in Mame to see the controls which are mapped to a specific game, so I believe J5 would be the only solution to not having to do that.  I believe J5 maps all mame key inputs correctly (even if you remap them for specific games only) so there is no need to check each individual game to see the mappings.




Czapala:
In unclet's defense, I "did" know what he was saying and appreciated the info he gave.

It was a question of opinion from people who use the different FE's.  Since the wiki only really gives features. As this is my first time doing something like this, to the un-initiated, they seem to have a lot in common.  But it was a source of good info.

BuddaBing: Although it wasn't until your 3rd post that I got your opinion  :P, I appreciate the info none the less.

I will endeavor to be more specific next time ( although I will not guarantee success! )
Howard_Casto:
Actually the mame32 vs mame choice.. it isn't much of a choice you should only use mame. 

Here's the thing...some of the simplier fe's only call the -listxml flag from mame to get data or don't call mame at all.  For those fe's you can use mame32.  If the fe,app,ect uses ANY of mame's other list outputs or queries then you have to use regular mame.  Now let it be known that some versions of mame32 support all the flags and some dont.  Since you never know from version to version if they are all included, it's better to just avoid the whole mess. Why the mame32 guys sometimes don't support extra flags is beyond me, but regardless you should never, ever reccomend mame32 as it might cause unforseen issues later down the road. 

j5 can work with mame32, if you manually send the driver and clone data, but it's much easier to use mame.  Dk can use mame32 but some of the driver status info returned is crippled.  Similar things happen with 3darcade and other fes that allow filtering.  Mame32 is an option but it is usually easier to use mame so you can never say someone is wrong by reccomending mame over mame32 unless they ask something like "I want to play mame games but I don't want to deal with a fe." 


And I want it to be known that I have nothing against cpviewer, it just doesn't do as much as j5.  J5 is rock-solid stable, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.  We run into bugs occasionally, but it usualy involves the user having a corrupted cfg file somewhere or them using an odd-ball "transition" build of mame (in the early .100's, when the list output flags were being changed). 

Easier is subjective, personally I think it's easier to setup an app once, for one game and then have it automaticcally configure all other games, even if the mappings differ than to setup another app for each control change, even if the inital setup is quicker.  But that is just me, others will disagree and I have no problem with that.   I think based on what the poster asked he wanted j5 rather than cpviewer in terms of how he wanted to use it.  Your opinion might differ, but I wouldn't call reccomending j5 wrong or even "half wrong" by any means. 


I didn't come to argue, so I'll quit now, I just hate to see someone being picked apart for giving realitively good advice. 

later

I wasn't going to argue the points that were opinions, I just don't understand why you jumped on poor unclet when, save the mala advice everything was pretty much spot on. 
Czapala:
Thanx Howard,
   I have parts coming in and should be building my machine next week.  I hope you don't mind me pestering you   ;D

From what has been said so far I am leaning toward MameWah, mame, and johnny5.

BTW what FE do you use Howard_Casto?
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