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Dual-axis games and mame configuration help requested
Minwah:
So...if you had a single axis pedal setup, could the two pedals be used separately as 2 digital inputs (eg for OutRun)?
Are there any other disadvantages with using a single-axis system aside from the no brake+gas simultaneously thing (in MAME)?
I have just got a couple of analog pedals, and am wondering what to do myself. I guess the best thing to do is wire up a switch to choose between single/dual axis. My only concern is that this relies on you (or mates) knowing when to switch it for which game.
unclet:
I have two separate sets of Virtua Racing gas/brake pedal assemblies (4 pedals total). I did not want to use any switches to determine which pedals to use for which game. I wanted my pedals to be active all the time, so based on which game I was playing, I would simply slide my chair in front of the correct pedal set and use them. I plan on wiring one set up as single-axis (like referenced at the site http://www.gunpowder.freeserve.co.uk/wheels/wiring.htm) and other other set keep as two separate potentiometer inputs for dual-axis games.
I was told some driving games allow you to push the gas and brake at the same time to allow for spinning the tires, peeling out, make weird moves (I guess). I read it somewhere so I thought I would simply wire one set of pedal assemblies up to allow for these games (I obviously have never played these types of games). My idea was I want to get enough hardware on my driving control panel Mame cabinet extension so I would never have to add hardware for years.
Minwah:
You still need to know which games are single/dual axis though in order to get your feet on the correct set of pedals. I don't want to have 4 pedals on my cab since it is not primarily a driving cab, I think it would look too much. (Plus pedals are quite hard to find).
I can't think of any MAME'd games that would make good use of pressing gas+brake at the same time. Games I have tried this on seem to brake and override the throttle. Anyone know of any?
u_rebelscum:
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--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on March 11, 2003, 12:39:39 am ---You can do the opposite, however: map a set of single-axis pedals to a dual axis game in mame. (This is also common in retail PC games.) But then you can't brake and gas at the same time.
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I keep wondering, why would you WANT to use the brake and gas at the same time? Is this really an advantage in any of these games? Even in the real world, you'd never do this, as you'd either stall the engine, or burn out the brakes.... ::)
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Real life, you'd do this to keep the engine RPMs at the sweet point even while slowing down (probably for a corner), but not slowing enough to down shift. Or to set up "power slides" around corners. (You see these all the time on TV car comercials.) You'd only do this while racing, so maybe not real real life. ;) And, yes, you'd burn out the brakes pretty quick, as well as the transmission.
But you're playing racing games, so you should be able to do real racing moves, if the racing game has good racing simulation.
--- Quote from: Minwah on March 11, 2003, 07:39:17 am ---You still need to know which games are single/dual axis though in order to get your feet on the correct set of pedals.
I can't think of any MAME'd games that would make good use of pressing gas+brake at the same time. Games I have tried this on seem to brake and override the throttle. Anyone know of any?
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See my list posted above for mame games that are set up to be able to take dual pedals. Hard/Race Drivin' and (unmamed) SF Rush games correctly use dual pedals in the game, the Crusin' games might. Not sure about the others on the list.
--- Quote from: Minwah on March 11, 2003, 05:22:40 am ---So...if you had a single axis pedal setup, could the two pedals be used separately as 2 digital inputs (eg for OutRun)?
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Yes.
--- Quote ---Are there any other disadvantages with using a single-axis system aside from the no brake+gas simultaneously thing (in MAME)?
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No.
Minwah:
Great, thanks U_Rebel :) I just took apart one of my rusty old pedals for a rub down and spray (sandpaper & paint I mean!)