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| Howard_Casto:
Quarterback, I think you are confused.... all the vertical games you mentioned SHOULD fill the screen the same as they all have the same aspect... at least to the best of my recollection they do. What me and rebel were saying is that just because you are running the right resolution doesn't mean you still don't have to adjust your monitor to make them look right. You do... or do like we said and use hw-stretch. Concerning your powerstrip issues. When powerstrip asks you to restart, in my experience that means your video card doesn't support that resolution/frequency and it'll try (and fail) anyway. the garbled picture when getting it in 640x480i is probably normal believe it or not. Go in the back, adjust your horizontal and vertical hold and you shoudl be able to fix it. Of course ps is very buggy, so you never know... could still be an improper timing thing. |
| quarterback:
--- Quote from: Hiub1 on May 05, 2006, 10:41:18 pm ---Well, if you are using those resolutions that I gave you, it should be 641x480i? I believe that 641 instead of the 640 is just there to differentiate between regular 640x480 and the interlaced mode. Maybe you missed that? --- End quote --- No, I'm down with that. The 640x480i that I tried is the "arcade mode" already pre-set in Powerstrip. The 641x480i (that I added to the .ini file) won't 'take' for me (just like the low res additions) --- Quote ---Also, drivers vary from Win98 to XP, so you might have better luck there. --- End quote --- And I'm starting to think this is a driver issue as well, since none of those custom resolutions will stick. --- Quote from: Howard_Casto on May 05, 2006, 10:46:21 pm ---Quarterback, I think you are confused.... all the vertical games you mentioned SHOULD fill the screen the same as they all have the same aspect... at least to the best of my recollection they do. --- End quote --- I'll totally agree on the confusion part :) But the reason I was messing with 1941 and 1942 is because they do have different resolutions (according to MAME) 1942 is 256x224 while 1941 has a resolution of 384x224 --- Quote ---What me and rebel were saying is that just because you are running the right resolution doesn't mean you still don't have to adjust your monitor to make them look right. You do... or do like we said and use hw-stretch. --- End quote --- I dig it. And I did mess with the monitor's controls in an effort to fill the screen a bit more, but didn't get any real results. And I'm still having issues with the -stretch, -hwstretch and -resolution switches. I can't, for the LIFE of me, get the DOS mames to fill the screen no matter what set of parameters I use. And not just the arcade screen, I can't get them to completely fill the PC screen either. I'm clearly missing something on the DOS end of things. --- Quote ---Concerning your powerstrip issues. When powerstrip asks you to restart, in my experience that means your video card doesn't support that resolution/frequency and it'll try (and fail) anyway. --- End quote --- Yeah, that's why I didn't think it was the powerstrip bug that Hiub1 was talking about. For whatever reason, Powerstrip doesn't want to play nice with my current setup. --- Quote ---the garbled picture when getting it in 640x480i is probably normal believe it or not. Go in the back, adjust your horizontal and vertical hold and you shoudl be able to fix it. --- End quote --- I had some hope there, but after more knob-turning, I still couldn't get it going on. I'm really thinking that powerstrip and my video card aren't communicating well. --- Quote from: Hiub1 ---I would still suggest upgrading to XP and trying out those drivers --- End quote --- I may give that a shot in the next week or so, but I'd still like to get a better grip on this DOS mame thing. I mean, I'm happy to simply run DOS mame on this system and forego Windows all together. And it just seems odd that I can't simply get MAME to do what I think it should do. Maybe I need another thread and drag RayB and other Dos mame folks into this. But I'll let you know if I have any success. Thanks |
| Howard_Casto:
Like rebel said... resolution has NOTHING to do with aspect ratio. Nearly all games are designed to run at either 4:3 or 3:4 ratio, depending upon the orientation. See back in the day arcade games had very limited processing power and storage space... one of the tricks to get the most out of a game is to tweak the resolution (squash it in one direction) and then the picture is physically stretched back to the proper ratio via monitor adjustments. Contrary to popular belief despite what nearly everyone will tell you, you should NOT be trying to run each game at it's native resolution, it is the very cause of the problem you are having. You run the monitor at it's max res.... set mame to run at that res, and turn on hardware stretch. For a few games you'll find this method doesn't give the best results and you'll have to make special cases for them, but by no means should you leave mame's resolution set to "auto" and expect mame to figure it out. Powerstrip doesn't help with the adjustments either, it merely makes you card capable of displaying odd resolutions. And btw... hwstretch doesn't work in dos.... if you are using dos then your only real course is to pain stakingly manually tweak each and every game in advance mame. Powerstrip also doesn't work in dos (or at least not well enough). What in the world are you doing? If you are running windows then you should be running regular old mame (not mame 32, not dos mame). |
| Hiub1:
I really don't think that anyone should have too much trouble with this. I run games at the closest 224, or 256 vertical resolution, and the screen stays pretty well centered and the size is correct. One thing you would be amazed at, is how much the picture can change once the monitor is warmed up. For mine, it takes about 30 minutes or so for the optimal picture quality. Even with low spec computers, I really don't see the advantage of running DOS anymore. It is just way too much trouble for what its worth. I find that XP based computers can run acceptably well even with old hardware. |
| SirPeale:
Okay, here goes... Although these games are the same aspect ratio (vertical @ 3:4) they're meant to be played on a dedicated board. That means one game in a cabinet. In the case of the first picture, an operator would simply adjust the monitor so the game fills the screen. Problem here is you've got many, many games on one cabinet. So if you adjust for one game, if you switch to the next one it may be off. Now...how to come to a happy medium? You could pick games that are all the same resolution, that'd work. Of course, it would suck not being able to play certain games since I'm sure the computer supports the speed and the controls you have, but better that than resizing every time you want to play. |
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