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| ahofle:
--- Quote from: clhug on May 03, 2006, 12:37:03 am ---Rollerball, could you do 3 things with your new spinner and post the results here? First, in Arkanoid, put the vaus (paddle) all the way to the left of the screen, then turn your spinner slowly until the vaus just touches the right side. Roughtly how much of a rotation, or how many rotations, of the spinner did it take to get the vaus all the way to the right? Then in Tempest, check 2 things. In Level 1 (just so we know exactly what level to compare), how much of a rotation of the spinner does it take to make one revolution around the tempest grid? And then vice versa, how many revolutions around the tempest grid do you get from exactly one 360 degree rotation of the spinner? Now, somebody with a Tornado, and somebody with a GGG spinner do these exact same tests and post the results. And just for further comparison, maybe somebody with a home-built ball-type mouse hack spinner do these same tests and post the results. Oh, and just to make sure everybody's comparing the same, before you do these tests make sure the sensitivity on the spinner on each game is set to the original MAME default in case you've changed it for your personal preference. (If there is a spinner sensitivity setting in MAME. I'm still new enough to it that I don't know for sure yet.) I'm very interested to see the results!! Not exactly science and by no means a firm indication of one over the other, but should at least give an idea. I wish I could provide some test results myself but unfortunately I don't have any spinner myself yet. --- End quote --- Problem is there are other factors like Windows mouse drivers/settings/speed/acceleration (and maybe even MAME version disparities) that would have to be identical to the person testing with the GGG and slikstik spinners to get an accurate comparison. |
| rollerball:
yeah true...would be VERY hard to compare...and it can be adjusted anyway....as Fozzy says...it works....so what more do you want I guess... |
| clhug:
--- Quote from: ahofle on May 03, 2006, 12:21:03 pm ---Problem is there are other factors like Windows mouse drivers/settings/speed/acceleration (and maybe even MAME version disparities) that would have to be identical to the person testing with the GGG and slikstik spinners to get an accurate comparison. --- End quote --- Ah, I knew there was a sensitivity setting in Windows but I didn't realize it would affect MAME. If it does, I definitely see that would present a problem. |
| rollerball:
Yeah but its not a prob for games...can play with the settings till you have it just the way you want it... |
| clhug:
--- Quote from: rollerball on May 03, 2006, 03:41:46 pm ---yeah true...would be VERY hard to compare...and it can be adjusted anyway....as Fozzy says...it works....so what more do you want I guess... --- End quote --- I'm definitely not trying to put down your item (I'm trying to build something similar). I was actually hoping that your optical mouse would come out with higher resolution than the others. But based on the previous post I see that it would be hard to do an accurate fair comparison (unless maybe one person had all 3 items and could do the tests on the same PC). Sensitivity adjustment helps, but can't compensate for everything. This was discussed in another thread a few months ago. If a device had too low of a physical resolution, you can crank up the sensitivity but the movement of the item on screen will be jerky. I had seen some posts from some people saying that they thought the movement of the vaus in Arkanoid wasn't smooth enough using the Tornado spinner. Worked fine for other stuff, just not the best for Arkanoid. I'm sure lots of other people probably can't tell the difference in Arkanoid though. I'm not sure I'll be able to. I don't have a spinner set up to play it in MAME yet though so I can't tell. But I do have an actual Arkanoid 2 machine to compare to once I get the spinner in MAME. On a side note, on my real Arkanoid 2 takes about 1/3 of a turn (somewhere between 45 and 90 degrees rotation) to get the vaus from one side of the screen to the other. |
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