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WINCAB - Thou has defeated me, I cryeth Uncle. (was wincab probs)

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cscon115:

1) I have tested every jukebox software that I can find (including the ones linked from your page). I can honestly say - without a doubt - yours is the best. Period.

2) It was an aggravating bug because I never made the connection between strict and the mis-ordered names. I used strict because I had a "Rock On" Series of CD's that give the top 10 or so songs from each year (Rock On 1981, Rock ON 1982, and so on). When I ripped these, the tags only said the album name was "Rock On". So wincab would smash them all into one disk and insert a (1981) or (1986) at the end.

3) I have put the Strict back to the way it was and have edited the tags. Now I have it so the file names are "Rock On 1981" and the author is not "Various Artists" but it is now "1981". This fixed the strict problem. Once that was working - everything else started to fall into place.

4) Update you say? Like possibly swapping the album / author line in the CD skin as well as the Album/author lines in the "now playing" section?

5) I was going to clean up the JPG in my skin (as you have seen screen shots of). Do you mind if I post them here for others to use? Or would you rather I not do that. I will do whatever you want - it is your code and all.

Dan

dibb1er:
Dan, I know it's a long shot, but....

the remaining "5%" of albums...
try moving all the files for that album out of the folder, then copy them back in, one by one, starting at track 1, then track 2 etc. then see what the sorting is like then.

i have found with some mp3 software (and even portable mp3 players) that it will sort on the date that the file was written to the disc, and basically ignores all other (logical) ways of sorting.
when i say, "date... written to disc", this is totally separate to the "date modifed" and "date created" dates that can be viewed in windows.   ???

anyway, just a suggestion...

cscon115:
I will try it.

I have been fixing the others by just inserting a hyphen between the track number and name. But I am willing to try - thanks for the tip.

(This is why I like this topic and forum. People are genuinely nice and really try to help where they can!)

Chris:
I was considering having a Smart Crop option that doesn't require the hyphen, but it would screw up any track that started with a number, like 99 Red Balloons.  I guess as long as it was optional it would be up to the user to decide if it was an issue or not...

cscon115:
Chris,

No matter how hard you try - you will never be able to get all of the possibilities. An old programmers addage states,

   "As soon as you come out with a fool proof program, they will invent a better fool." 

For example, currently we need the hyphen for smart crop. You need that for programs that start with a number (IE. 99 red balloons)

But I have found that songs / albums / names that contain a hyphen (IE. Ride my See-Saw) will also cause wincab to start to use the filenames and I start to see tracks like this:

01    01 Ducks in the Rain
02    02 King of Pain
03    03 My cloths are Stained
04    04 Ride the Train

(Here I go again, telling you how to do your job...)  Would it make sense to make Smart crop just chop off the first 3 characters of the string for a no hyphen option or the first 5 characters for the hyphen option? Or is that too simplistic?

Does Smart Crop take into account some crazy burners that load
"Artist - album - year - track - title.mp3"? If so, my suggestion would not work.



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Currently, wincab is working very well. I have found if I rip and just move the newly ripped album into the directory in Wincab's path -  all is right with the world. Wincab will use the tags. If I "touch" a tag, or even open the album with ANY tag editor (and make no changes) Wincab will start to use the file names and never recognize the tags again.

This is odd, some albums use filenames and others use the tag. Now this is not all bad, in fact, it is usefull "undocumented feature".

My skin ends up chopping the album into 2 parts between track 13 and 14. If I allow Wincab to do the cutting - I will have a CD case showing the last 1, 2, 3 etc. tracks on the first cover and the second cover showing the first 13 tracks.  Most of the Beatles albums I ripped had 14 tracks so I had 1 track (the last song on the album) on the first cover and 13 tracks on the second cover.

So I made two directories, Rubber Soul (1) and Rubber Soul (2). I "Touched" the tags and this directory starts using the names and not the tags. I moved the first 7 into the first directory and the second 7 into the second directory.

This made the titles look like this:

Rubber Soul (1)
01  01 Drive My Car
02  02 Norwegian Wood
etc.

Rubber Soul (2)
01  07 Michelle
02  08 What Goes On
etc.

I inserted hyphens and PRESTO! I did not even need to RE-Number the second cover! The result was - I had 2 covers, first 7 on the first cover and the last 7 on the second cover. My only trouble is - there are so many albums that I have with 14 tracks! :cry: Now, this also has one bad side effect. I have to test some more but... I think this may be causing wincab to crash if I use the 00 option on one of my "cut albums". I will test and update.


Dan

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