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horseboy:

Ok, Ok, so this might have been discussed before, but I can't read through that 2000 post thread and a search turned up nothing. I had been assuming based on the amount of discussion that the Topgun is the way to go, but I wanted to make sure before I buy.

Is the accuracy on the TopGun better? If so, by how much?

The biggest issue that people appear to have with the Topgun is the fact that you have to stand at a certain distance for it to work right. Is this a big problem?

I guess the most important thing that I want to know is... what do you guys think is the better solution?

Thanks in advance for the input

Lilwolf:

Yes, it could... it has the ability to have better resolution then your monitor.  Light guns cant... and usually are accurate to a few pixels.

BUT then you have a mapping issue.  With perfect calibration, (on the TG) it needs to map from its resolution to the screen resolution... And perfect resolution isn't really possible. 

TG's also have a bit of a lag.  VERY small lag, but it can be noticable.

TG's also, you have to stand back.  About twice the distance that the LED stands are apart from each other.

I would give them very similar accuracy to possibly a bit less.  Hard to tell because of the distance away.  But with the last pointer being something you can move around, you can get that pretty accurate... good enough for most games.

BUT the REAL advange is the full tracking.  For T2 and games similar, there is no difference.  Heck, for some they are more fun for me then with my T2 guns!  Maybe because the better controls then a mounted gun on a joystick makes the game easier?  I don't know but it is GREAT for these guns.

The other advantage is not needing a CRT.  I just upgraded my PC (not cabinet) machine to dual LCD's and love it... And I still get some good gun gaming going!  I can't wait until I get an overhead projector... I'm SO going to put the LED's behind the screen and cut little wholes for LED's to stick out of.  That will be SO COOl to have a good standup full wall shooting gallery in my house!

sWampy:

I got an lcdtopgun last week, and some of the games are pretty hard to play 8 feet or whatever back.  I couldn't ever get them to calibrate turned on their sides,  which would reduce the distance you have to be back greatly.   I picked up 5 different used guncon2's last week for an average of $3.50 each from different gamestops/ebs around town, and ordered then scan convertor chip from ultimarc, hopefully it will be here soon, so I can see if I like one of them better.   At $3.50 I'd be willing to take some of them apart and mount them in rifle/shotgun case for games that used shotguns, something I don't want to attempt with $50 lcdtopguns.

aljupy:


--- Quote from: Lilwolf on April 13, 2006, 08:42:04 am ---TG's also have a bit of a lag.  VERY small lag, but it can be noticable.
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Lag??? I would say It has the same Lag that a Guncon2. Are you talking about the "Lag" that the Laser is faster than the CrossHair/MousePointer?
Wich driver ara you using? Smog

Fozzy The Bear:


--- Quote from: aljupy on April 14, 2006, 03:51:02 am ---
--- Quote from: Lilwolf on April 13, 2006, 08:42:04 am ---TG's also have a bit of a lag.  VERY small lag, but it can be noticable.
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Lag??? I would say It has the same Lag that a Guncon2.
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I agree with you.... The topgun has no more noticeable lag than a Guncon2, when it's installed properly.



--- Quote from: aljupy on April 14, 2006, 03:51:02 am ---
--- Quote from: Lilwolf on April 13, 2006, 08:42:04 am ---I would give them very similar accuracy to possibly a bit less
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A bit less accurate the guncon2 are you meaning? or viceversa?
In my case accuracy are very close.....
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The accuracy of the Topgun is much better than any Guncon2 gun.  They track properly even on dark screens. The Guncon guns can't track at all on dark screens making them more or less useless in some games.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

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