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What is important when considering purchasing a CP?
ArcadEd:
No, because I use a trimmer bit designed for laminate to trim all the holes after I lay the formica. I'll see if I have a picture of a top without a button.
Tahnok:
--- Quote from: ArcadEd on April 11, 2006, 05:18:19 pm ---No, because I use a trimmer bit designed for laminate to trim all the holes after I lay the formica. I'll see if I have a picture of a top without a button.
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Ah, OK. That makes perfect sense. No need for a picture.
ArcadEd:
--- Quote from: tahnok100 on April 11, 2006, 05:06:18 pm ---Laminate: Looking at the pictures the review thread by Saint, it looks like there is some chipping along the inside of the holes. Of course, that is along the area that will never be seen once the parts are in and the box is put together. But I can't help but feeling that I would be a bit disappointed in the craftsmenship if I bought one of these units and it arrived with chips. I understand that laminate is difficult to work with, but it still seems like something that should be fixed.
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Notice the joystick and trackball holes. That is how all the holes are.
--- Quote ---Joystick bolts and trackball plates: You seem to have two conflicting statements here. You say that you won't use a mounting plate so the trackball is easy to remove. But you also say the bolts go through and are under the laminate, so they are easy to remove. You have basically just created a mounting plate for the joysticks. The bolts can't be removed, just like the mounting plate. The trackball can easily be removed from an installed plate, just like the joystick bolts. Care to explain?
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OK, I'll try.
No mounting plate involved. The bolts go through the top (heads hidden) through the wood. The base of the joystick is mounted underneath with nuts on the bolts.
Same is true with the trackball, except a few L brackets for added support.
Make sense?
--- Quote ---Edit: I just noticed you also don't use any sort of KD fitting to put the box together. I have always thought they add a nice touch to the product. You should maybe consider them, especially if you are getting the boxes CNC cut.
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I am not sure I know what KD fitting is. You mean like tongue and groove? I do have some drafted up that way, I just never did it. Once the bottom of the box is on and secure it makes the entire box very durable. Especially when you add wood glue when putting it all together. Again, this just comes from a few years of testing different methods.
--- Quote ---Also, I can't quite tell by the pictures; is there no slant on the panel? I think the top panel should definitely be slanted like a normal CP.
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1 inch from the front to back.
ArcadEd:
--- Quote from: Zeosstud on April 11, 2006, 05:10:18 pm ---ArcadEd,
I always want to be able to play Robotron on any control panel I would consider buying or make myself. All the controllers I see with 1 joystick and a bunch of buttons just make no sense. It is of course a VERY individual / personal thing. As long as you have some variety in what you offer and its at a fair price you should be able to sell some stuff. I have always been turned off by people that really try to screw you on shipping too. I have no beef with making a few bucks on shipping to cover time and expense but taking it to far is a bit of a sore spot. Best of luck with your new venture.
Zeosstud
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I am always open to doing custom work from people. That is something I Have never gone away from.
For example, a customer that wanted a custom lit marquee.
And the shipping thing is a pet peeve of mine too. My shipping is about 10 dollars more than if you got a quote from Fedex only because of the cost of boxes and spray packing foam I use to insure the box gets there safe.
Usually 25-35 dollars for shipping in the US.
Tahnok:
I understand the method used to mount the trackball and joysticks, what I don't get is why you are so against trackball mounting plates. They are just as easy, if not easier, to use than your method. The trackball can still be removed without having to remove the entire plate.
KD fitting = Knock down fitting. KD fitting, cam & lock, cam & pin, etc. The kind of hardware that allow you to put together and take apart the unit with only a screw driver. I use them in all of my bartop cabinets. Also, many larger companies use them (like Mame Room on their CPs). My favorites are the 3/4" ones listed on this page. They are a bit pricey, but they work quite well.
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--- Quote from: tahnok100 on April 11, 2006, 05:06:18 pm ---Laminate: Looking at the pictures the review thread by Saint, it looks like there is some chipping along the inside of the holes. Of course, that is along the area that will never be seen once the parts are in and the box is put together. But I can't help but feeling that I would be a bit disappointed in the craftsmenship if I bought one of these units and it arrived with chips. I understand that laminate is difficult to work with, but it still seems like something that should be fixed.
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Notice the joystick and trackball holes. That is how all the holes are.
--- Quote ---Joystick bolts and trackball plates: You seem to have two conflicting statements here. You say that you won't use a mounting plate so the trackball is easy to remove. But you also say the bolts go through and are under the laminate, so they are easy to remove. You have basically just created a mounting plate for the joysticks. The bolts can't be removed, just like the mounting plate. The trackball can easily be removed from an installed plate, just like the joystick bolts. Care to explain?
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OK, I'll try.
No mounting plate involved. The bolts go through the top (heads hidden) through the wood. The base of the joystick is mounted underneath with nuts on the bolts.
Same is true with the trackball, except a few L brackets for added support.
Make sense?
--- Quote ---Edit: I just noticed you also don't use any sort of KD fitting to put the box together. I have always thought they add a nice touch to the product. You should maybe consider them, especially if you are getting the boxes CNC cut.
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I am not sure I know what KD fitting is. You mean like tongue and groove? I do have some drafted up that way, I just never did it. Once the bottom of the box is on and secure it makes the entire box very durable. Especially when you add wood glue when putting it all together. Again, this just comes from a few years of testing different methods.
--- Quote ---Also, I can't quite tell by the pictures; is there no slant on the panel? I think the top panel should definitely be slanted like a normal CP.
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1 inch from the front to back.
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