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LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« on: March 22, 2006, 01:39:13 am »
'r' series:



'n' series:



And with the GGG Electric Ice buttons:


Color matched vinyl to button color (blue on blue), and in clear buttons. In both rows, the "MAME" insert is in blue, and the "25c" insert is in black.



Got a small batch of these rolled out last night, I wanted to call them "Discs of Pr0n" but uh... yeah it wasn't that funny in my head either.

Right, on to business. These are 5/8" acrylic discs that fit inside Happ translucent buttons (not sure about others). When backlit with an LED, they look fantastic, and definitely bring the feel of a traditional coin door to the control panel (IMO).





Installation is very straight forward... here is a pictorial guide on installing these inserts in a Happ translucent button (buttons not included):



And I also have in stock several red LEDs that are perfect for this application. Their specifications are: T 1 3/4, 5mm diameter, Typical Vf@If(mA) 2.2@20, typical mcd@mA: 1200@20, Wavelength: 660nm. Their typical voltage is 1.9, max is 2.4. Here is an example of the LEDs in action in both a dim environment, and directly under a fluorescent light:



The backside of the discs features a thin white plastic film which acts as a great diffuser of the LED light, providing very even illumination over the button insert. If you would rather have the blinding power of the LED, simply pick off the white film with your fingernail.

Prices for most button discs are $2/ea shipped in the USA (the text/mouse icons are $3 due to their complexity/production effort). The LEDs are $0.50/ea (shipping is free if these are purchased with the discs). Australian and UK buyers, please add $0.84 for international shipping. Buyers from Canada/Mexico, please add $0.63.

To order, please send me an email at dage@pixelstorm.net and specify which button inserts you want and the quantity, and the quantity of LEDs if desired.

Currently I have available qty. 21 of the 25cent discs, qty. 3 player 1 discs, qty. 3 player 2 discs and qty. 100 red LEDs.

Thanks!
mike

Disc catalog follows... These can all be ordered in any of the colors I offer (black, white, red, pink, purple, green, yellow, orange, blue). I will assume black if no color is specified.

General purpose - $2/ea shipped (US)







Text/mouse icons - $3/ea shipped (US)








XBOX series - $2/ea shipped (US)








Playstation series - $2/ea shipped (US)




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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2006, 01:57:47 am »
This board has really spawned some cool stuff in the last couple months.   Good stuff MikeD! 
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 08:38:32 am »
Email sent.  Woot!   ;D

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 09:42:40 am »
Email sent...

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 12:46:36 pm »
Thanks QB! :D

And emails received, I'll ship ASAP in the order they were received... emails comin' back at cha. I'm doing another run of these tonight as well, so if any particular item runs out today, I'll have more to ship out tmw.

thanks all!
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 05:24:27 pm »
Added a bunch of new disc designs. Turnaround time for some custom orders should be within 48hrs max. Hopefully its a lot quicker though!

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2006, 12:24:26 am »
Out of curiousity.....would you consider selling "completed" buttons....i.e. a "25 cent button" = 1 plunger assembly + disc + microswitch + led?  Sort of "plug and play"?  If so, what would the costs be?

I like the 25 cents buttons, but may be willing to pay for a completed button that I just need to install and get power to....

btw - very cool idea  ;D

Thanks.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 02:18:43 am »
Yep... and actually did that to with my first order of these (except for the LEDs). Planning to do it again within the week, just had to wait for payday to order some more buttons from ponyboy :)

I'll have some figures shortly.

Thanks!
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 01:59:22 pm »
Will these work with the electric ice buttons?

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2006, 02:22:17 pm »
Not sure about that...

edit: Would anyone that has an electric ice button be willing to pop out the plunger and measure the inside diameter for me? I'll send ya some free vinyl decals or something for your trouble :D
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2006, 03:50:50 pm »
Email order sent.  Excellent work, Mike.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2006, 10:10:53 pm »
Thanks KT :)

Update: added a couple shots of the "N" series of discs (these are without the black background, similar to the typical vinyl decals I offer). Added to the original post.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2006, 10:46:50 am »
Mike,

What is the Diameter of the disks that you are making? I have electric ice buttons, but the caliper I own is not very accurate. The diameter seems to be close to 0.65 +/- 0.02. If this is close to the Diameter you are already making, I would be interested in buying a few. Let me know.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2006, 11:30:39 am »
Mike,

What is the Diameter of the disks that you are making? I have electric ice buttons, but the caliper I own is not very accurate. The diameter seems to be close to 0.65 +/- 0.02. If this is close to the Diameter you are already making, I would be interested in buying a few. Let me know.

Kid

yeah, let me know too!!

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2006, 11:33:02 am »
Dude I have said it before and I will say it again!!  YOU-R-DA-MAN

The 'N' series is where it is at for me!!!  I want some but do need to know if they work with the Ice buttons.


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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2006, 01:01:39 pm »
Mike,

What is the Diameter of the disks that you are making? I have electric ice buttons, but the caliper I own is not very accurate. The diameter seems to be close to 0.65 +/- 0.02. If this is close to the Diameter you are already making, I would be interested in buying a few. Let me know.

Kid


Perfect! That is basically the exact inner diameter of the happ plunger... The max diameter of the button inserts/discs are 5/8", or 0.625". Let me know if you decide to order, one of the discs will be on the house, to thank you for your time.

Thanks!

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2006, 01:23:08 pm »
Mike,

Are you going to add more to your catalog of general disks? My girlfriend kind of likes the player one (girl) and player two (boy/girl) stickers that I bought from you. Let me know.

Thanks,
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2006, 04:37:31 pm »
Ahh, so someone *does* actually use those ones! :D

I can definitely toss those on discs for the same prices as the normal p1-4 guys, just let me know. *Almost* everything I have fits on the discs... but sometimes the text ones are extremely difficult (since the discs are only ~15mm). Otherwise, almost everything else works... I'll try to get those added "officially" when I get some time.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs buttons!
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2006, 11:16:17 pm »
What is the Diameter of the disks that you are making? I have electric ice buttons

???  But the Electric Ice buttons aren't see through.   ???

Or are you hoping to get a little 'shadow play' image to shine through only when they're lit up?  That'd be cool, but do you think it will work?
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2006, 12:02:53 am »
I am hoping that if I use white, you will not see the images on the player buttons unless they are lit.  The stealth look is what I am hoping for.

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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2006, 12:24:28 am »
I am hoping that if I use white, you will not see the images on the player buttons unless they are lit.  The stealth look is what I am hoping for.

Dig it.   I wanna see pics! :)
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2006, 12:31:36 am »
I am hoping that if I use white, you will not see the images on the player buttons unless they are lit.  The stealth look is what I am hoping for.

Next question is will the white show thru!! I too only wanted them visable when lite!  Sumn dat makes u say uhmmmm.

So I thought I would have to go with black because of the buttons not being translucent.  Also if the label was green, would the green show thru the button?   O0
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2006, 02:16:29 am »
I guess that it really depends how dense the material being used is. I wonder if Mike could do me a big favor and shine an LED behind one of the white and black disks. This way I could see how much of the light is blocked by the sticker material and determine if it will actually work. I think that if a color other than white is used, you may see a haze when the button is not lit.

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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2006, 04:12:02 pm »
Just got my discs today... Pictures coming soon.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2006, 05:42:41 pm »
PM sent as well as PayPal payment  ;D
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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2006, 07:00:46 pm »
Mike, these look absolutely fabulous ! I already loved your vinyl work. Shame these discs won't work on the traditional leaf buttons, so (maybe asking a lot) but would it be possible to make vinyl stickers in the shape of these discs. I mean, they would be the same as the regular vinyl's but then inverted and with a round shape. These could easily be applied on top of the regular leaf buttons.

Hope you understand what I mean and if that would be possible. This may also be a solution for the ice buttons, although you of course will see the shape when unlit.

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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2006, 11:27:40 pm »
I shined a 3 cluster red LED threw my 1 player disc and it looks great. I'm not so sure I like the white backing that is there to diffuse the light. I guess I will try different "configurations" to see what I like best. The pictures are much smaller than the original 1 player, which is understable since they are going inside the plunger.  I was worried about removing them from the transfer tape, but I had no issues with removing them from the transfer tape. Overall, I thought they were pretty good quality. I do think that people would probably like a combo solution (i.e. translucent + disc) w/ pre-cut hole for LED.

My 2 cents...

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2006, 09:48:52 pm »
well done Mike. Question, noticed you have 1UP characters, could you also make 2UP as well? Would be better if one were to buy these as a "set". Thanks. Good Work.  :applaud:

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2006, 11:53:04 pm »
Holy cow!!!! Those rock!  Saw the "Tab" and laughed!!!!

I only have two comments/questions.  I'm assuming that eventhough the graphic for the PS triangle is on its side, you can turn it right-side up?  And how come you didn't make the shoulder buttons L1/L2/R1/R2  instead of L1/L2/R1/R2?

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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2006, 12:36:59 am »
Holy cow!!!! Those rock!  Saw the "Tab" and laughed!!!!

How about the "Pause" button:   :)

I only have two comments/questions.  I'm assuming that eventhough the graphic for the PS triangle is on its side, you can turn it right-side up?

Since these are just stickers and/or circular inserts, they can be turned any way you'd like

And how come you didn't make the shoulder buttons L1/L2/R1/R2  instead of L1/L2/R1/R2?

My guess (and again, I don't speak for MikeD) is that it's a space issue.  I believe that the button discs are smaller than just the stickers he also does.  Since the discs have to fit inside of the buttons, they're smaller and squishing the L1 to fit side-to-side inside the circle is probably "too" small.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent --> (0-9?) <--
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2006, 07:50:49 am »
I am building a Jukebox and have been killing myself trying to get the numbers from 0-9.  :banghead:


I have spent a small fortune on Illuminated Push Buttons (IPB), new lenses, and new 12V leds. I still don't have a legend for them and I am not really happy with the result because the number buttons are so big on the panel.   These WOULD have been great if you had the numbers from 0 to 9.

Do you have legends for 0 - 9?  (You have the letters!)

Do you make these yourself?
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2006, 02:27:36 pm »
Hey guys! Responses follow... Sorry about my inactivity in the past few days! I had some unplanned business to take care of and had to take the weekend "off".

I guess that it really depends how dense the material being used is. I wonder if Mike could do me a big favor and shine an LED behind one of the white and black disks.

I can absolutely try this out... And in fact, I just ordered a set of the ICE buttons if you all dont mind waiting for them to get here. Might as well do a test with the real thing so you guys know what you're getting.

...but would it be possible to make vinyl stickers in the shape of these discs.

Thanks! :D

And actually these are available in just vinyl as well, and in all the colors I have. I just have to figure out a proper pricing scheme as doing these piecemeal takes a lot longer than offering premade sheets... and some of the text ones are *extremely* challenging for my plotter. In the meantime if anyone wants anything, just send me a list and we'll figure something out :)

Question, noticed you have 1UP characters, could you also make 2UP as well?

Thanks! And can do... I have no preference personally if they are in a set or not, as they are all custom orders when it comes to these, since there aren't many preset sheets that make sense. Just let me know and I'll run a gif by you guys to approve.

I shined a 3 cluster red LED threw my 1 player disc and it looks great. I'm not so sure I like the white backing that is there to diffuse the light...

Thanks for the feedback! The white film is definitely up to personal preference. It does remove easily should you choose that route, though. And the transfer tape is definitely more friend than foe. I'm not sure how safe they would be in the hands of the USPS :) Premade buttons are coming, though the prices will raise accordingly because I'll have to include the shipping prices of them to me. Hopefully it will save you guys time or money in the end, as I can order a few more at a time to save on shipping. We'll see how it turns out, though!

I'm assuming that eventhough the graphic for the PS triangle is on its side, you can turn it right-side up?  And how come you didn't make the shoulder buttons L1/L2/R1/R2  instead of L1/L2/R1/R2?

Whoops! QB beat me to it (thanks qb :)), but you can definitely turn them any way you like... same with the arrow decals/discs. I can remake the shoulder buttons like L1/L2/R1/R2 (or offer both). I did originally make them like that so the letters could be a little more legible, but it should work out the other way as well. I'll test and update the catalog as soon as I get a moment.


These WOULD have been great if you had the numbers from 0 to 9...
Do you have legends for 0 - 9?  (You have the letters!) ..
Do you make these yourself?..

I do make these myself at home, on a small vinyl plotter, so pretty much anything is possible. Fitting really long words on a small insert is where it gets very tricky (or impossible for my cutter), but for the most part it's not a problem. I can definitely make the 0-9, and I should add those to the catalog.

Otherwise, if it's not listed above, everyone please feel free to PM or email me at dage@pixelstorm.net from a custom order... unless it's unusually complex prices should be just around the same.

Thanks all!

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2006, 03:36:44 pm »
I'd like to let everyone know I LOVE the 25cent buttons. Mike made some up for me and I received them very quickly. They are awesome. I can't wait to get them in my new CP.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2006, 10:48:05 am »
Has anyone tried the ice buttons yet?

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2006, 01:59:03 pm »
i know you mentioned something like this already, and it may be more trouble than its worth, but if you offered a fully complete set of: button, with disc installed, and a LED installed with a PC power molex conector and whatever restistor or whatever are needed for it to get its juice from the PC. i would be willing to pay a premium for some thing like that....

just drop them in the control panel and plug the PC power molex into your existing mame PC......

i could be dreaming and i wouldnt think any less of you if you thought this idea stank, but i figured id try 8)


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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2006, 02:48:15 pm »
i know you mentioned something like this already, and it may be more trouble than its worth, but if you offered a fully complete set of: button, with disc installed, and a LED installed with a PC power molex conector and whatever restistor or whatever are needed for it to get its juice from the PC

Actually, this idea exactly (all the way down to the molex connector), is coming very soon. I ordered another small batch of buttons from ponyboy... and added a couple other colors just in case. Hoping to get the buttons soon and I just ordered another batch of discs as well.

Has anyone tried the ice buttons yet?

Mine shipped from GGG yesterday and I'll surely do some tests if nobody beats me to it :)

I'd like to let everyone know I LOVE the 25cent buttons. Mike made some up for me and I received them very quickly. They are awesome. I can't wait to get them in my new CP.

Thank you so much, I'm really glad to hear it!

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2006, 03:22:10 pm »
Has anyone tried the ice buttons yet?

Mine shipped from GGG yesterday and I'll surely do some tests if nobody beats me to it :)

They fit, but they are opaque enough that you can't see the graphic unlit.  I haven't tried backlighting it yet. 

The Electric Ice buttons seem to be much more stiff and brittle than other buttons I have worked with so be careful removing the buttons.


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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2006, 04:07:20 pm »
They fit, but they are opaque enough that you can't see the graphic unlit.  I haven't tried backlighting it yet. 

The Electric Ice buttons seem to be much more stiff and brittle than other buttons I have worked with so be careful removing the buttons.

Thanks for the info!

I've noticed similar conditions with the happ translucents. It must have something to do with the type of plastic involved. I actually broke off one side of the clip that holds in the microswitch (you can see in the first picture in the pictorial). That was after 3-4 removal and reinstallations of the discs, so I was probably getting impatient and sloppy.

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Re: LED button discs/inserts for translucent Happs, fx, or ice!
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2006, 10:39:42 am »
Also wanted to thank you for including a Euro symbol !!! However, in the days of these great games, we still had no Euro, so I'd vote for a Dutch Guilder symbol as well  :D
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