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SithMaster:

Have only played on my keyboard and want to make a shmup for my top favs and was curious as to what buttons and joys work best.

If it helps im looking to play games like don don pachi, giga wing, and gunbird so i think the basics would be an 8 way and 3 players controls each for a 2p cp.

thanks.

brendz:

You want sanwa JLF-TP-8YT or seimitsu LS-32 for joysticks and sanwa OBSN/OBSF-30 or seimitsu PS-14-K clear (cause they look slick) for buttons.

kowal:


--- Quote from: brendz on March 21, 2006, 07:51:28 pm ---You want sanwa JLF-TP-8YT

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Sanwa sucks: engagement is late, long throw. Seimitsu is good, Mag-stick or Sanwa Flash (optical) +octagonal .Optical joysticks are the best to shumps. You can to think about P360 and to install him in metal panel. Using Metal slaeve for metal panel. (to to reduce throw).


Standart buttons Sanwa/Seimitsu they are not good to shumps. They die after half year. They hold with time. This causes unwanted the activations of shield (Giga Wings, Mars Matrix)
The best to buy RG series ( they are very dear:( )
http://www.akihabarashop.com/catalog.php?sanwa-OBSN30RG





Minwah:

I disagree, I like Sanwa J-Stiks (no idea what part no. these are derived from) for schmups.  I like the light action for fast movements, and flipping the restrictor over reduces the throw.

destructor:


--- Quote from: Minwah on March 22, 2006, 04:42:21 am ---I disagree, I like Sanwa J-Stiks (no idea what part no. these are derived from) for schmups.  I like the light action for fast movements, and flipping the restrictor over reduces the throw.

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I thought the same when installing J-Stik first time but it was false.

I play on shmups. Yesterday I finished Cyvern on 1 credit.
http://marp.retrogames.com/index.cgi?mode=search&short=^cyvern$
First time I used T-Stik, next J-Stik and I say - what excellent controller for shmups! But not, manoeuvre  in hail of bullets is impossible with J-Stik. I change joystick to T-Stik again and I finished this game.

OK, the end of story, now about joysticks.

I tried shmups with 3 joysticks: X-Arcade, J-Stik, T-Stik.

X-Arcade - totally crap for shmups, too long throw
J-Stik - crap for shmups, good diagonals but throw is too long still
T-Stik - good (not excellent) for shmups. Short throw - excellent for manoeuvre in hail of bullets, but spring is too hard, you must use too much strenght for manipulate this stick

I didn't test Mag-Stik, P-360 and Seimitsu.
I prepare P360 in this week for Donpachi.

If you are interesting on MARP are bounties for some shmups:
http://forums.marpirc.net/viewtopic.php?t=12297

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