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psychopanda:

I just bought a topfire from Happs, since they have a sale on them. But if I'm not happy with the feel of it, I might be in looking for a better one soon.

It seems alot of people are disappointed with those joysticks in general or maybe it's just the topfire joysticks that companies are putting out? From what I remember, I liked topfire joysticks as a kid but wasn't as crazy about trigger joysticks.


RayB:

 :) Here is what his top-fires could look like:


Note: Those two are Command Control shafts I modified to fit a Wico joystick base. They are mounted to a 3/4" thick control panel. They are usable for trigger games, but on the short side. Ideally they would be best if mounted to a metal control panel.

Moloch, I hope you don't mind me posting this.  :)

PS: You can also make em fit Happ Super bases.




RobotronNut:


--- Quote from: moloch on March 21, 2006, 09:03:45 am ---It looks like all of these topfire sticks fall off the radar. I am wondering if they get too expensive of what.

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i've never used a top-fire, but they just seem cumbersome to me. they don't seem like they'd be very good for trigger games, because your thumb is not as agile as your trigger finger. and you can't grip the ball top when you're pushing the button, so you have to grip the thin metal shaft.

they also don't seem like they'd be very good for non-trigger games, because you have the button sticking into your palm.

i've always thought of them as a compromise made to save money, rather than a really good solution for any given application.

i think the happ 8-way flight stick is the perfect solution, although admittedly expensive. and it is the only solution, as far as i know, if you want to play discs of tron, which requires both a trigger AND a thumb button.

the tron cocktail seems like a decent second-best, because it appears to work well both for trigger games and as a plain joystick.

Kremmit:


--- Quote from: moloch on March 21, 2006, 09:29:59 am ---Just as a side note the P360, Happ Ultimate, and Competition use the basic same shaft dimensions, so if I can make a ball top fire for one it will not be tough to make one to fit any of them.

I do not have a P360 but I do have a lot of Ultimate and a few Competition sticks for comparison and sizing, but based on everthing else Happ's does I am pretty sure that the dimensions are the same for the P360.

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--- Quote from: markrvp on March 21, 2006, 09:58:57 am ---The P360 shafts ARE NOT the same diameter as other Happ sticks.  They are the same diameter as WICO shafts as the P360 was originally a Wico product.  Dimensions for several shafts is in one of the threads linked above.  Conceit68 got married and that was the end of that.  ;)

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Ultimates are also not the same size.  They're noticeably smaller than any of the others.  Supers, Competitions, and Reunions are all the same diameter.  Ultimates don't match anything but Ultimates.  P360 match Wicos.

quarterback:

FWIW, I think this joystick shaft measurement info (and other joystick measurement info) would be great addition to the Wiki once there's a concensus.

I know there have been threads in the past where differenc joysticks have been measured using everything from a ruler to calipers.  But a definitive "this is how big/long it is" (insert crass comments here) comparison of what shafts work with what bases, including the aftermarket shafts, would be tres helpful, IMO


--- Quote from: Kremmit on March 21, 2006, 11:16:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: moloch on March 21, 2006, 09:29:59 am ---Just as a side note the P360, Happ Ultimate, and Competition use the basic same shaft dimensions, so if I can make a ball top fire for one it will not be tough to make one to fit any of them.

I do not have a P360 but I do have a lot of Ultimate and a few Competition sticks for comparison and sizing, but based on everthing else Happ's does I am pretty sure that the dimensions are the same for the P360.

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--- Quote from: markrvp on March 21, 2006, 09:58:57 am ---The P360 shafts ARE NOT the same diameter as other Happ sticks.  They are the same diameter as WICO shafts as the P360 was originally a Wico product.  Dimensions for several shafts is in one of the threads linked above.  Conceit68 got married and that was the end of that.  ;)

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Ultimates are also not the same size.  They're noticeably smaller than any of the others.  Supers, Competitions, and Reunions are all the same diameter.  Ultimates don't match anything but Ultimates.  P360 match Wicos.

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