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leapinlew:

--- Quote from: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 12:50:28 pm ---we could trace ANYONES IP address. 

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It's things like this that make you lose creditability with me. Coming from a technical IT background I know this statement to be false. Or at best, highly exaggerated. For the following reasons:

Dialup users receive a different IP upon each connection. If you traced the IP back "with a few clicks" you would find the company who registered that IP's address. Forcing you to deal with that ISP. AOL users work under this setup.

Some networks are built behind firewalls and proxies that take advantage of NAT/PAT to serve more customers then they have IP's. Some networks have no choice but to use a private IP address to allow the routing of their customers packets to a central location. Rural wireless and some satellite internet works this way.

Lastly, some countries come from a pool of IP's. It would be impossible to track down these IP's into another country, especially a communist country like China.

If you were to be from the FBI, I would think a background check of Harpal before you purchased anything from him would've been a prudent and valuable step in avoiding this whole mess. I assume it's possible you are a law enforcement officer who isn't technical in nature. But, when you say things like "we could trace ANYONES IP address." and imply you can do it to their front door is ludicrous.

Personally, reading your poor punctuation, lack of capitilization, misspellings, and claim to be a law enforcement is insulting. I am sorry you were taken by Harpal and I also am sorry for anyone else who may have been swindled, but it seems like you had more resources then most to avoid this situation and warn anyone else.

Good luck with this, I hate to see anything like this happen to anyone. If you still have a problem with me - shoot me a PM. This is getting ugly and doesn't deserve to be in a public forum.
kenmelk:
Wait a minute, i DO NOT nor WILL NOT do backround checks on everybody i deal with that is just stupid, everyone in this world is not a crook.  I do nto really care if you believe me or not like i said I DO NOT need to prove myself.  And if you are an IT guy as you say, then maybe you are not up to date on your stuff, I can tell you your name, ISP, phone # and address in a matter of minutes, just because YOU cannot do something does not mean we cannot either.  As for my punctuation, sorry about that, i guess i cannot work for the FBI with poor grammar!  I am not going to PM you at all!  I am not looking for YOUR creditability at all!!!  HOW DARE YOU!  Maybe i should do a backround check on you!  Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!  I was only trying to help, and now i am under the microscope!  DON'T ASK I AM NOT HELPING, I will get my money back and deal with HARPAL my way!

Also from now on everyone should be subject to a backround check BEFORE they trade with anyone!!!

Oh yeah and if your grammar and punctuation suck, you are a loser who cannot hold a job!!

I am not nor will i EVER post my badge number here or on the web, but i can assure you i have one.

Also as for the tracing of the IP address' leapinlew you got a lot to learn!  Just because you get to the front of the ISP does not mean the trace stops! As an IT specialist, i would think you know that!

Well Good luck everyone with HARPAL

MODS please put this thread in POST HELL!
markrvp:
I don't have a dog in this fight.  I don't have a point, really.
NinjaEpisode:

--- Quote from: kenmelk on March 17, 2006, 05:46:41 pm ---Wait a minute, i DO NOT nor WILL NOT do backround checks on everybody i deal with that is just stupid, everyone in this world is not a crook.  I do nto really care if you believe me or not like i said I DO NOT need to prove myself.  And if you are an IT guy as you say, then maybe you are not up to date on your stuff, I can tell you your name, ISP, phone # and address in a matter of minutes, just because YOU cannot do something does not mean we cannot either.  As for my punctuation, sorry about that, i guess i cannot work for the FBI with poor grammar!  I am not going to PM you at all!  I am not looking for YOUR creditability at all!!!  HOW DARE YOU!  Maybe i should do a backround check on you!  Damn i am done i do not care who got burned from this guy or anything i am not helping you all can do it yourselves,  In fact HEY MODS put this thread in POST HELL as i am TRIED of the PERSONNEL ATTACKS ON ME AND MY CHARACTER!!!  I was only trying to help, and now i am under the microscope!  DON'T ASK I AM NOT HELPING, I will get my money back and deal with HARPAL my way!

Also from now on everyone should be subject to a backround check BEFORE they trade with anyone!!!

Oh yeah and if your grammar and punctuation suck, you are a loser who cannot hold a job!!

I am not nor will i EVER post my badge number here or on the web, but i can assure you i have one.

Also as for the tracing of the IP address' leapinlew you got a lot to learn!  Just because you get to the front of the ISP does not mean the trace stops! As an IT specialist, i would think you know that!

Well Good luck everyone with HARPAL

MODS please put this thread in POST HELL!

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Tell ya what Ken, you send me my current IP, my home address and my full name via PM and I'll vouge for you.

vader:
I"m gonna throw my 2 cents in here which isn't worth a penny.  There was a internet fraud sting that was set up about 3 yrs ago between DTV and the FBI.  I remember the FBI having to subpoena the ISP to get the information on the ISP customers.  If the FBI had the technology to circumvent the ISP's systems, why would they need to go through the ISP.  Now that was then and this now and thing could have very well changed alot, I'm just thinking out loud.

Tim
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