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Fozzy The Bear:


--- Quote from: pointdablame on March 16, 2006, 10:55:04 am ---hmm... reading comprehension......   

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You insult me with:

--- Quote from: pointdablame on March 15, 2006, 08:45:23 pm ---Anyone who REALLY plays FPS games will tell you a joystick and buttons will not play the games well. 
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AFTER I've said that I play FPS games on my cab... You pop up an claim I don't REALLY play fps games.... No reading comprehension problem at all there. 

Just for your information... My other half REALLY REALLY plays FPS Games on the cab. She was an Unreal Tournament National Championship runner up, a few years ago... She'll be more than happy to tell you that they play very nicely on an arcade cab. I'm sure she'd be more than happy to also meet you in an arena and kick your butt very soundly while playing from the cab ;).


--- Quote from: pointdablame on March 16, 2006, 10:55:04 am ---And if you are using a monitor that accepts high res resolutions, you can easily set up the cab WITHOUT an AVGA.  But whatever....

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As Krick has so kindly pointed out for you.... "The ArcadeVGA has special drivers for multi-sync monitors that allow it to run at 31KHz as well as 15Khz so you get the best of both worlds."

While no doubt you understand that the point of AVGA is to run arcade games at their native resolution and refresh.  On a Multisync that means that it's also possible to run High res PC games, and that BOTH can and do live quite hapilly on the same machine.

So as I said in the first place... For me an update of the AVGA card to something with a bit more horsepower than a 9200 would be an advantage.

What exactly is it that you can't manage to comprehend about that??

Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

Fozzy The Bear:


--- Quote from: Minwah on March 16, 2006, 11:01:32 am ---I couldn't care less what you do, but you must admit, it's unusual (I nearly said 'wierd' until I remembered your short fuse  :D) to want to do video editing on an arcade cabinet...certainly it's not the kind of application an ArcadeVGA-style card would be aimed at.

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You can call me wierd if you want... LOL  ;D You're allowed... You wrote the best front end on the planet, that makes life so much easier.

It IS an odd application for an arcade cab, I agree with you completely.... But take the following into account and it starts to look a lot less odd: When I or my other half are not playing games, it means the computer is churning away processing video and not tying up my other machine. It is a very slow process sometimes, even with a lot of horsepower. BUT, given that I shelled out money for the hardware in the cab, it might as well be doing something useful when I'm not playing games on it.

When I am playing games, I do like to have the choice between Arcade and high end PC games... and it means I'm again not tying up the machine connected to the internet, and which a lot of my work also sits on. Q.E.D.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

pointdablame:


--- Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on March 16, 2006, 06:41:36 pm ---
What exactly is it that you can't manage to comprehend about that??


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I understand your entire argument, but you have yet to see the point of my argument.  I am not saying NO ONE could use a better chipset on the AVGA.  My argument is it is NOT NECESSARY. Big difference.

You are in the minority... the very small minority IMHO.  Andy would have to either convert all AVGA cards to PCIe with a better chipset, OR handle 2 product lines of an extremely niche product.  Also, it would make no sense to jump from a 9200 to another mid range chipset in your argument, so he'd have to go to a much newer chipset, and thus as I already mentioned, probably at least double the cost of a card.

So in that situation you'd have either
- A cheaper AGP card and a much more expensive PCIe card - the problem with this is that people who want to use a PCIe card on a MAME cab probably doesn't want to spend $200+ on a video card when MOST people use it for arcade games.  (again, i say MOST)

-ONLY the expensive PCIe card... now you've alienated AGP folks AND folks who want a simple PCIe card, not a high end card

- Or maybe there should be THREE versions?  AGP, low-end PCIe, high-end PCIe... or throw in a PCI card for FOUR...


It's not financially viable and makes little to no business sense.  I'm not attacking you personally, which you can't seem to understand... it's just silly IMO to upgrade the the chipset at this point in time.

squirrellydw:

So what is Andy doing, he has to be following this.  He said he is working on a PCIe card, does this include a new chipset or the same chipset just for PCIe?  From the little experience I have, I agree there is no reason to put an expensive chipset on it but I think it needs to go to PCIe or just PCI.

Crony:

I have the D9200 and Andy's card and if you can afford it, IMO it is the best solution of all. It plays everything and seems to magically change the refresh rates and resolutions. This combo is expensive, but really rocks!!

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