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squirrellydw:
Is this the one you are talking about $159.......
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535

--- Code: ---Brand AMD
Series Athlon 64
Model ADA3200BPBOX
CPU Socket Type Socket 939
Core Venice
Multi-Core Single-Core
Name Athlon 64 3200+
Operating Frequency 2.0GHz
HT 1GHz
L1 Cache 64KB+64KB
L2 Cache 512KB
Process Type 90 nm
Hyper-Transport Support Yes
64 bit Support Yes
Multimedia Instruction MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional
Voltage 1.35/1.4V
Cooling Device Heatsink and Fan
Manufacturer Warranty 3-Year

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now for a motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131517
krick:
What video card are you planning on using?

If you want to use an ArcadeVGA, you'll have to pick a board with an AGP slot.

What operating system do you plan on using?  If you're considering using Windows 98SE or ME, you'll have to pick a motherboard with a compatible chipset.  If you're going to use 2000 or XP, you can pick pretty much anything.

SOAPboy:

--- Quote from: krick on March 12, 2006, 03:57:13 pm ---Prescott CPUs run EXTREMELY hot.  If you're considering putting this in a closed arcade cabinet, this is something to consider.  Also, this generally means that they need a loud fan to keep them cool.  Nearly every customer review I find complains about the noisy fan.  Read some of the reviews of the Prescott 3.0 and see what they say.  If you can find a Northwood 3.0 at a similar price, I highly recommend you get it instead of the Prescott.

If this is for a dedicated MAME machine, you might want to consider turning Hyperthreading off.  I've seen reports that Hyperthreading causes performance problems with MAME.  Again, do some searching and see what you find.

Honestly, unless you already have an Intel motherboard in hand, I'd seriously consider getting an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ or faster.  The 3200+ consistently beats the prescott 3.0 in almost every benchmark.  And according to the MAME team, AMD processors usually run MAME faster on most games.

Let's look at prices on newegg, shall we...
The socket 478 Prescott 3.0  that you're looking at is $192
A socket 939 athlon 64 3200+ is $168

The really cool thing is that the latest 3200+ CPUs are great overclockers.  Most people easily get to 2.6 GHZ (FX-55 speeds), a lot get to 2.7GHz, and some even get to 2.8GHz (FX-57 speeds).  And this is with the stock cooler!!!

You can pretty much forget about overclocking a Prescott 3.0 without investing in some serious cooling.

Another thing to consider is that socket 478 is a dead end.  If you buy a socket 478 board and a Prescott 3.0.  You really don't have much in the way of upgrade options.  The highest you can go is to a 3.4GHz P4.

With a socket 939 board, you can upgrade to an FX-57 (single core) or an FX-60 (dual core).  And who knows, AMD may still make faster socket 939 cpus in the future.  478 is dead.  Intel isn't making any new cpus for it.



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Um.....

Intels dont run THAT hot dude.. in fact, AMD is known to run hotter than intel, and its been that way for years..

Regardless, they arnt going to be running so hot there going to combust or melt down randomly.. 

As for overclocking them, lol.. My 2.8C and friend 2.8E both could get to 3.4 respectivly on STOCK cooling..

krick:

--- Quote from: squirrellydw on March 12, 2006, 04:30:48 pm ---Is this the one you are talking about $159.......
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103535

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Newegg has 2 different steppings of that CPU...
http://tinyurl.com/nddg7

The BP is the older E3 stepping.

The BW is the newer E6 stepping which has a better memory controller.

Obviously, the E6 model is more in demand so the price is higher.  I'm not sure if the stepping really effects you or not. 

I think the E3 and earlier steppings had problems running more than 2 sticks of memory at the full rated speed.

I don't recommend running more than 2 sticks of memory anyway.
krick:

--- Quote from: SOAPboy on March 12, 2006, 05:46:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: krick on March 12, 2006, 03:57:13 pm ---Prescott CPUs run EXTREMELY hot.  If you're considering putting this in a closed arcade cabinet, this is something to consider.  Also, this generally means that they need a loud fan to keep them cool.  Nearly every customer review I find complains about the noisy fan.  Read some of the reviews of the Prescott 3.0 and see what they say.  If you can find a Northwood 3.0 at a similar price, I highly recommend you get it instead of the Prescott.

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Um.....

Intels dont run THAT hot dude.. in fact, AMD is known to run hotter than intel, and its been that way for years..

Regardless, they arnt going to be running so hot there going to combust or melt down randomly.. 

As for overclocking them, lol.. My 2.8C and friend 2.8E both could get to 3.4 respectivly on STOCK cooling..


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You're completely wrong on the temperature thing.  Why do you think that Intel has abandoned the P4 core and moved to a whole new architecture based on the Pentium M core's technology?  Why do you think Intel came up with the BTX form factor and has been trying to push it as the new standard?  Why do you think that Intel has been researching water cooling for retail processors?  It's all about the heat problem.


I took my Opteron 148 up to 2.8GHz at the stock voltage with the stock cooler.  Under 100% load with the Prime95 torture test (in-place large FFT), the CPU temp stays under 45 degrees C.

What kind of CPU temps are you getting overclocked at 100% in the prime95 torture test (in-place large FFT)?

The main problem with the P4 and overheating is that when it gets too hot, it throttles the clock down to keep the CPU from crashing.  Of course, that kills the performance too.

Try running ThrottleWatch while you're running the Prime95 torture test (in-place large FFT) on your overclocked P4 and see if it throttles.
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