Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news


  

Author Topic: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig  (Read 69913 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Jdurg

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1127
  • A young guy feeling older than sin......
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2007, 10:28:20 pm »
Very nice.  I've decided to top mount my joysticks so building a jig would be a great way for me to get used to my router.  Thanks for the tips.  I wish Home Depot was open right now because I really want to work on my CP right now.  :'(
Donkey Kong High Scores:
1): 49,500
2): 35,600
3): 30,100
4): 29,400
5): 28,200

clickhea

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 416
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2008, 08:58:30 pm »
how big is that hole for the joystick

1 inch?

Jdurg

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1127
  • A young guy feeling older than sin......
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2008, 08:45:38 pm »
how big is that hole for the joystick

1 inch?

I'm top mounting the joysticks.  That means it's much bigger than 1-inch, thank you.   ;D
Donkey Kong High Scores:
1): 49,500
2): 35,600
3): 30,100
4): 29,400
5): 28,200

ViciousXUSMC

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 213
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 03:13:59 am »
Im going to go look at router stuff today so it will probably make more sense later.

The bushing is a piece that mounts before the bit that lets you ride along an edge to guide the cutting bit.  Its at the base of the router so in our case when cutting your actual control panel it would be riding the edge of our template.

However when cutting the actual template you did not use a bushing, instead you used one of those pattern bits with the bearing on the end of it (flush trim bit) and let the bearing guide you instead of the bushing.

Is that correct?  It just seems odd as I thought we used the bushings to eliminate the need for one of the bits with the bearings on it.  You could do it with just a normal bit and a bushing right, or is perhaps the bushing to big to get the corners right.

I guess the final picture confuses me its stained but it looks like the bottom, so you can stick the joystick up through it so this is a bottom mounted build you did right?  If it was top mounted the base of the joystick wont fit through that hole.  But if it is bottom mounted I dont know why the part you wont see was stained?

Then there is the question of terms.  You cut the jig with a bit that has a bearing on the tip, when I googled "flush trim bit" I get those with the bearing at the top: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5411

This would work, you could just have the template for the jig on the top instead of the bottom I suppose, also these seem to be popular - http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_flush.html

2nd to last one with bearing at the shaft and the tip of the bit.

For me it seems that I would use the one with the bearing at the top more often so that you can cut into things, if your cutting into something you cant have the bearing on the tip of the bit.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2009, 03:57:02 am by ViciousXUSMC »

sqwirral

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 22
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2009, 04:38:46 am »
Heya Timoe do you have the rest of replies 2, 4 and 5?

There's a bug with the forum, it won't show them

rockworm

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 13
  • Got a Q*bert cabinet design going
    • Jimbo's arcade dream
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2009, 05:37:11 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?

sqwirral

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 22
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2009, 09:58:35 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?
If the wood is too thick then not enough of the joystick will stick out the top. If the wood is thin enough to do that then you have a flimsy CP. The recess probably keeps it locked in place better too.

rockworm

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 13
  • Got a Q*bert cabinet design going
    • Jimbo's arcade dream
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2009, 02:56:16 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?
If the wood is too thick then not enough of the joystick will stick out the top. If the wood is thin enough to do that then you have a flimsy CP. The recess probably keeps it locked in place better too.
Maybe I was just lucky in my choice of joysticks (some Happ model, don't remember which now) then. I mounted mine under a 12mm fiber board and using four carrier bolts to hold it in place. It is just a temporary control panel used until I start building my cab, so maybe I should try sinking it to know which way to go for the real thing...

Thanks for the help.

Epyx

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1951
  • "You're an oddity"
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2011, 02:42:11 pm »
Quote
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?

You can but top mounting improves the following:

1) More shaft above CP
2) Easier to ensure no carriage bolts above CP. You get a nice flush mount.

This is a great tutorial but I used FrancoB's method which I think is even more straightforward.
Last Project



Epyx Tutorials:
Tutorials

IG-88

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2035
  • Posts: 48,764
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2011, 03:24:50 pm »
I've mounted them to the underside and just screwed them in. If you want you can route out the area for the plate (or use a wood chisel) to get a little more height. Never had a problem with the screws poking thru or having to deal with bolt heads or joystick breaking loose and it looks great!
"I know what a HAL 9000 is... I was wondering if HAL 7600 was his retarded cousin or something..."
-HarumaN

Epyx

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1951
  • "You're an oddity"
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2011, 04:37:51 pm »
Absolutely, underside works fine and of course can be done without screws poking through etc but imo you just can't beat a top mounting for length of shaft and if you do it properly strength is of no concern.  I have done both but wouldn't go back to bottom mounting after having done it the top way.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2011, 12:22:49 pm by Epyx »
Last Project



Epyx Tutorials:
Tutorials

fashionever

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2012, 01:59:48 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

IG-88

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2035
  • Posts: 48,764
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2012, 08:25:28 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

What???
"I know what a HAL 9000 is... I was wondering if HAL 7600 was his retarded cousin or something..."
-HarumaN

danny_galaga

  • Grand high prophet of the holy noodle.
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8434
  • because the mail never stops
    • dans cocktail lounge
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2012, 09:08:28 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

What???

could be a patient spammer. Build up a few posts and then BAM! Testimonial about the latest tampon...


ROUGHING UP THE SUSPECT SINCE 1981

retrostark

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 98
  • Indie Dev/Custom Arcade Cabinet Hobbyist
    • RetroStarkCustomCabs.com
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2013, 09:56:04 pm »
thanks for the tutorial. now i just need to get me a new router.
Indie Dev/Custom Arcade Cabinet Hobbyist

DHTech

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 127
  • Arcade Flashback
    • Arcade Flashback - Hand Made Custom Arcade Machines UK
Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2013, 12:44:54 pm »
thanks for the tutorial, learnt something new today :)

  
 

Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31