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GGG Tutorial: How to loosen an IL Switchable Joystick (aka T-Stick)

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MinerAl:

Couldn't you just clip a 360o (or whatever) section of the spring?

RandyT:


--- Quote from: kowal on March 04, 2006, 02:40:07 pm ---3-4 weeks. I had 2 T - stcik was 1,5 year and this one of first things which I made to he acted more softly. It alters the dynamics of working... this is unfavourable in shumps games. Better to alter switches. It was it been possible to reach differences 150g even. Without loss of dynamics.

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You misunderstood the question.  Without knowing the extent or method used in your modification, your results are hard to quantify.  Simply reducing the spring tension should not appreciably change the dynamic of the stick any more than changing the switches would.

FWIW, this method reduces the tension on the stick by about 226 grams (~.5lbs) using the same switches.  It can be done for less than the cost of one new microswitch and with a much less effort. IMHO, it does not appreciably change the dynamic of the stick as there is still plenty of tension to center the stick properly.  Not as much as before, but that's pretty much the point of all this.


--- Quote from: MinerAl on March 04, 2006, 03:11:30 pm ---Couldn't you just clip a 360o (or whatever) section of the spring?

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Unfortunately, that's not possible with this spring.  In order to provide even pressure on the plate, there has to be a perfect circle at the top and bottom of the spring.  If you look closely at the photo, you'll see that the spring is actually ground flat in order to provide this.


RandyT

MinerAl:

Ah.

Even with the perfect flat top, wouldn't the majority of the force come straight up from the last angled part of the spring?

Regardless, I like the idea.  I think I might go grab a few dozen little flat washers and try to find the sweet spot :)



RandyT:


--- Quote from: MinerAl on March 04, 2006, 03:41:40 pm ---Even with the perfect flat top, wouldn't the majority of the force come straight up from the last angled part of the spring?

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Maybe to a small extent, but probably not as much as one might think.  The metal would need to twist for this to happen and it resists that as well, so the energy gets transferred over the larger area.


--- Quote ---Regardless, I like the idea.  I think I might go grab a few dozen little flat washers and try to find the sweet spot :)

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Be sure to report back with your findings!

RandyT

MinerAl:

Will do.

FWIW if you could come up with IL switching sticks with ball top handles, and bring it in under the price of the same product from someone else, I'd probably buy them from you.  Especially if you tweaked them in your usual fashion.

I build my controllers with a Mac in mind, so Andy's USB keyboard encoders are the only option, but your products always seem to be top notch...

See what you can do to "even-plusser" a T-Stick :)

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