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RandyT:
--- Quote from: SlikStik Christian on February 25, 2006, 03:13:08 pm ---We want to congratulate Groovy Game Gear for bringing an alternative choice to the spinner enthusiast industry, at SlikStik we know that competition/alternative choices are good for the end user which is one of our commitments as an OEM manufacturer.
In the manufacturing process companies should try to make the highest quality product while keeping it cost effective as well as consumer friendly. We mention price because SlikStik products seem to get hammered for being expensive or overpriced. In addition, we have noticed that some of the claims regarding functionality of the Turbo compared to other spinner controls released in the online, arcade controls forum sales pitch are of no value, thus the need for some clarification.
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Wow, GGG got congratulated in one paragraph, and then called a liar in the next...I'm all happy and hurt at the same time ;)
I don't usually like to do this in a thread started by a competitor, but there doesn't seem to be any qualms about dragging our name around while alleging that I have somehow made false statements, so defending myself here seems to be the proper thing to do.
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Kremmit:
I third the notion that the # of teeth on the encoder wheel definately counts. To suggest otherwise is either ignorance talking, or plain old bull.... and anybody that understands the Arkanoid problem isn't ignorant.
In my experience, the number of teeth on the wheel definately makes a difference in MAME. Any game that requires the sensetivity to be set higher than 100 is suffering from it. The more teeth you have on your encoder wheel, the less likely you are to have to set your sensetivity over 100.
I've played around with lots of different encoder wheels, with different tooth counts. Just for reference, here are the ones I actually saved the numbers for:
DOT spinner (original) has 128 teeth.
The Oscar DOT has 72, same as Blasteroids, Tempest, Oscar Vortex, and the 720 joystick.
The Pole Position wheel has 24 teeth, with the gearing you get just shy of 4 revolutions of the encoder per turn of the wheel, for somewhere around 80 teeth actually passing through the optics per one turn of the steering wheel.
Arkanoid is the special one. The knob attaches to shaft #1, which has a 72 tooth gear on it. That gear turns a 16 tooth gear on shaft #2. Shaft #2 also has a 72 tooth gear on it, which then turns a 16 tooth gear on shaft #3. Shaft #3 also has the encoder wheel on it, which has 24 teeth.
So, shaft 2 spins 4.5 times for every turn of shaft 1. Shaft 3 spins 4.5 turns for every turn of shaft 2. 4.5 squared is 20.25 turns of the encoder for every turn of the knob, which is 486 teeth per revolution of the spinner knob!! (That's even more than was stated above, but I believe my numbers are correct, unless anybody sees any math errors.)
SlikStik still has better knobs, though.
Lon:
Damn, wouldnt you know it. I just ordered a tornado yesterday ... arrrggghh
Lon
pointdablame:
Well with the price drop, I'm really going to have to debate on which spinner to get now that my latest project is finally starting to show progress (I just jinxed that, didn't I?) Hopefully someone has a side by side compare-o lined up (Kevin?)...
I know that I'm not the only one who sees potential for this thread to get messy, so I just want to say this: Both Randy and Christian are great assets to this hobby. They both make excellent products, and are both very proud of their work.
Don't let this debate threads scare any of you new guys away. Both GGG and SS make awesome products and you won't go wrong with either IMO.
The only downside of all of this for me is Randy and Christian are BOTH guilty of making me choose between arcade parts or feeding myself at college. For shame you two, for shame! ;)
rugby1:
Wow, I can't believe this post hasn't gone to PH yet.... Not cool in my book to basically call a competitor a liar in a public forum. Not what these forums are here for and definately not something a professional business would do.
I have ordered from SS and GGG and I can tell you that I will never do business with SS again. Not even if SS drops the price of their products like they have with their spinners. I should never have to call a company and ask them to ship my order 6 weeks after I have ordered it. Don't let me inconvenience you SS (as you are obviously too busy slamming competitors instead of running a business)! And If I would have seen these posts earlier, I would have never ordered from them to begin with....
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=17778.0
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=17806.0
*edit: Yes Christian... what you posted way back when is coming back to haunt you.... I am making it my personal mission to give you bad press