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I-PAC shift function vs. KeyWiz Shazaam Function for Howard C.
Kane:
--- Quote from: rampy on February 20, 2003, 10:25:36 am ---Well.. FWIW I just ordered one.. and I will do a review. I do not have an ipac to compare it to (just a sidewinder hack)... but I can be a reasonable test case for ease of installation, ease of use... compatibility, etc...
So... Randy quit posting messages and go process my order (just teasing) =P
Rampy
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I think I would be a better test subject for "ease of use". I should be receiving mine today or tomorrow. I have NO prior experience in things of this nature :)
rampy:
--- Quote from: Kane on February 20, 2003, 10:55:29 am ---
--- Quote from: rampy on February 20, 2003, 10:25:36 am ---Well.. FWIW I just ordered one.. and I will do a review. I do not have an ipac to compare it to (just a sidewinder hack)... but I can be a reasonable test case for ease of installation, ease of use... compatibility, etc...
So... Randy quit posting messages and go process my order (just teasing) =P
Rampy
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I think I would be a better test subject for "ease of use". I should be receiving mine today or tomorrow. I have NO prior experience in things of this nature :)
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Well as long as you write up something... I'm sure plenty of people have received non-beta key wiz units that they've paid for but I've seen nary a review posted (either informally as a post here, or as a "feature" on a website)
I'm saying I'm gonna write something up and take a pic or two and put it up... and I plan on following through on that.
It would be cool if you have the time/inclination to do the same before I get mine especially with your "ground floor experience" level (I hope that came out right). I look forward to hearing yours (and others) first hand experiences with the Key Wiz...
Know what I mean?
Rampy
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: RandyT on February 20, 2003, 10:34:27 am ---Yes, this is correct.
But since the Shazaaam! feature supports multiple simultaneous keypresses, you could have those functions mapped in software so they wouldn't trigger unless 2, 3 or more specific buttons were pressed at the same time.
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Okay, now I don't quite follow!!!
My idea was to have a button for ESC (wired with your adapter to Shazaam! and P2B5). The problem came if I pressed a different Shazaam! function and also pressed P2B5, the game would exit. If I follow correctly, I could have the software set up so Shazaam! and P2B4, P2B5 AND P2B6 together pressed Escape. But I don't want to press three buttons together to end the game!
Is it possible to use one button with 3 of the adapters wired together to do what you are suggesting?
Another idea a friend and I were kicking around: what if the Shazaam! key only accepted one input per press and wouldn't read any more inputs until the Shazaam! button was released and pressed again.
Then, using my previous example, you could not press Coin 1 (Shazaam! P1B4) and Coin2 (Shazaam! P2B4) at the same time, but pressing Coin1 and P2B4 would work fine and there would be no way to accidentally exit the game from an unintentionally Shazaam! (Coin1 and P2B5) key combination.
Could this be done in software, or maybe through a jumper on the board (Pins 1-2= multiple Shazaam! presses, Pins 2-3 = single Shazaam! presses), or would the whole board need to be redesigned (and multiple Shazaam! presses disabled) to accomodate this?
Kane:
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Well as long as you write up something... I'm sure plenty of people have received non-beta key wiz units that they've paid for but I've seen nary a review posted (either informally as a post here, or as a "feature" on a website)
I'm saying I'm gonna write something up and take a pic or two and put it up... and I plan on following through on that.
It would be cool if you have the time/inclination to do the same before I get mine especially with your "ground floor experience" level (I hope that came out right). I look forward to hearing yours (and others) first hand experiences with the Key Wiz...
Know what I mean?
Rampy
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I do plan on taking pics and writing up a quick "review" for us on the "ground floor" :) I'll post a link when all is said and done, probably tomorrow night or sometime on Saturday.
Tiger-Heli:
Just to clarify:
If I understand correctly, there are two ways to make a Special Button, one is the example Randy gave with the ";" and the P1 Start button, which gives you a similar situation to the I-PAC except that the Shift function occurs on KeyDown.
What I am asking about is a way to mount one button that only send another button's shifted function, which I thought the adapters will allow.
Followup-Question: Assuming you can have this button mapped to multiple inputs is it possible to do something like this (except RandyT already told me the direction inputs can't be shifted), but. I remap input A to UP and input B to down and connect these to the Joystick switches. Now I assign Shazaam! A and B to Esc. Then I wire my button with adapters to the Joystick UP and Down switches. Since a joystick can't be up and down at the same time, there is no way to accidentally exit the game, but the button will exit. Would this work?