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| RandyT:
--- Quote from: _Iz- on February 19, 2003, 04:01:31 pm ---I am confused and somewhat offended by your reluctance to explain how the keywiz's "special adapter" functions or even how it connects to the keywiz itself. You seem to be attempting to lead me to believe that it is "just magic". The ability to extend the number of inputs on the keywiz is (as I'm sure you already know) a major selling point for it. I would assume that someone proud of their product and it's "superior" design would not have to hide behind a veil of secrecy and would want to disseminate as much information about it in order to enable prospective purchasers to make an informed choice. --- End quote --- There are some things that a drawing says better than words. A schematic is one of them :). The schematic would be included with the adapters. Too often people aren't able to follow a written description and make false assumptions, as has happened here more than once. It also sounds more complicated when written as opposed to a simple diagram. Just trying to avoid these misconceptions. But I guess I'll give it a shot anyway. 1) There are 2 male spade disconnects and 1 female spade disconnect. 2) The female pushes onto the N/O terminal of the switch you wish to make "special". 3) One female gets connected to the "Shazaaam!" bus (in the case of several of these on a CP). 4) The other female connects either directly to an input on the KeyWiz along with the switch that has the secondary code you want the special switch to be associated with, or is chained off of that switch's N/O terminal. And again, it's not as complicated as it sounds. :) RandyT |
| _Iz-:
RandyT, thank-you for your response. This board supports the posting of images. You obviously have some sort of schematic ready as you have indicated the adapters are ready for purchase this evening and complete drawings/instructions will be shipped with them. If a drawing were that critical to your explanation could you not have posted one for us instead of forcing me to back you into a corner? I'm still curious as to how it works at an electrical level. Can one of these adapters be made simply by the knowledgeable DIYer or are they more involved? I have one more question, on your product information page for the keywiz, it's speed is discussed heavily. Would a button using the "special adapter" be as fast as a regular input or is there some delay involved? |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: _Iz- on February 19, 2003, 04:56:07 pm ---RandyT, thank-you for your response. This board supports the posting of images. You obviously have some sort of schematic ready as you have indicated the adapters are ready for purchase this evening and complete drawings/instructions will be shipped with them. If a drawing were that critical to your explanation could you not have posted one for us instead of forcing me to back you into a corner? I'm still curious as to how it works at an electrical level. Can one of these adapters be made simply by the knowledgeable DIYer or are they more involved? --- End quote --- Actually, the schematic is not ready yet. That's why the adapters won't be on the site until later this evening. I still have to make the documentation (always the last step, you know) And yes, these can be made by a knowledgable DIY'er. With an adapter that I build and test, I know that it will work properly if hooked up the way I specify. If someone gets "creative" in the wiring process while building their own, this gets nearly impossible to support if problems arise. For this reason, I don't wish to make the internals of the adapter public. But if someone buys one and disects it, that's fine too, as long as I don't have to figure out what they did wrong when they decide to build their own and it doesn't work ;). And no, no delays. It responds just like a regular button. RandyT |
| Howard_Casto:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on February 19, 2003, 04:14:47 pm --- --- Quote ---I, for example, refuse to have special "mame keys" on my control panel. If I have to have a "shift key" put on special then I'm not getting it. The idea is I want my cp to look like it could actually be on a real arcade machine. If I have a row of function keys then it ruins that. I figure a lot of people with faithful mame conversions of arcade cabinets feel the same way. --- End quote --- You don't need a row of function keys, you need one Shazaam! key that can access your other functions. Use RandyT's adapters and you don't even need that!!! --- Quote --- --- End quote --- Exactly! Your not getting it... one single extra key is too many. There isn't a "function" key on a real arcade machine and thus there isn't a function key on my control panel. I'm guessing that this adaptor costs something, in which case the keywiz doesn't have the cost advantage anymore. As I said, it's worse...... And dude, I understood your example the first time.... that's an issue of the keywiz having more inputs than the ipac, and has nothing to do with how the shift function operates. Besides, the ipac4 has more than enough inputs.... I've just been ignoring it as the cost is a little higher. --- End quote --- |
| Silverwind:
--- Quote from: eightbit on February 18, 2003, 04:33:01 pm --- --- Quote from: ErikRuud on February 18, 2003, 02:54:57 pm ---Nope, I am in the US. Someone had said that the KeyWhiz would not get the customs charges because it was from the US, so I thought they were talking about US Customs. --- End quote --- I've ordered twice from ultimark and know personally of 2 other people that have ordered from Ultimark with no custom charges in the US. The only complaint I've heard is from Canada and they seem to inconsistantly charge a additional customs charge. --- End quote --- I ordered one from inside the US and there was no customs charge.. and yes so far i'm happy with my ipac4 :) |
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