Author Topic: Ms Pacman Stencil update... (Read 60251 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #80 on:** August 24, 2006, 03:30:20 pm »

Quote from: JoyMonkey on August 24, 2006, 03:20:01 pm

And I still haven't ~~gotten off ---my bottom---~~ found the time to finish setting up the vinyl stencil artwork. I need to learn to concentrate on one project at a time.

Please teach me when you learn that. Thanks.

WunderCade · « **Reply #81 on:** October 16, 2007, 04:00:51 pm »

Found this thread in my seemingly endless quest for Ms. Pac stencils. Wow is been a loooong time.

JoyMonkey, did you ever make any headway on this project? I know Chad is still looking for set too. My resto Ms. Pac is on hold cuz I'm stuck on sideart.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #82 on:** October 16, 2007, 04:05:24 pm »

I can't remember how far along I got on this. Like most projects I get into, I got distracted by something shiny and.... oooh! a penny!

Edit: I'll try and dig out my files and see how far I got in prepping them.

ChadTower · « **Reply #83 on:** October 16, 2007, 04:07:43 pm »

I would definitely still buy a set, maybe two.

knave · « **Reply #84 on:** October 16, 2007, 05:10:40 pm »

Hey wow life in an old thread...I could use a set too. Heck I'd be happy with some affordable stickers.

WunderCade · « **Reply #85 on:** October 16, 2007, 05:38:13 pm »

Quote from: knave on October 16, 2007, 05:10:40 pm

Hey wow life in an old thread...I could use a set too. Heck I'd be happy with some affordable stickers.

Stickers?? Heresy!!!

Anyways, yeah....it'd be nice to be able to fatten Joymonkey's wallet a little. Not to mention the rockstar status he'd gain by finally being the man that delivers after so many failed attempts by others.

WCBoudreaux · « **Reply #86 on:** October 16, 2007, 06:02:19 pm »

Count me in for a full set as well if this project gets to the ordering stages...

WunderCade · « **Reply #87 on:** October 17, 2007, 04:26:53 pm »

OK...Joymonkey from the PM's I've gotten over this, I count six sets WANTED so far. So if you're on board with it, there are members here chomping at the bit. We just have to figure out how to get rid of those shiny's.

markrvp · « **Reply #88 on:** October 17, 2007, 09:20:23 pm »

I'm down for a set as well.

notaburger · « **Reply #89 on:** October 17, 2007, 10:07:30 pm »

put me down for a set (assuming you don't make them available around the holidays, when i'll be stretched pretty thin for cash)

Neilyboy · « **Reply #90 on:** October 18, 2007, 08:32:58 am »

depending on price im in for one as well. I have that ms pac sitting in my garage just waiting for a rainy day cleanup.

Neil

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #91 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:56:39 am »

I'll try and get the file vinyl-ready this weekend, but I've got a lot going on right now so it could easily not happen again.

Just so everyone's aware; anything I do will be one-time-use adhesive vinyl stencils. The nice thing about these is they won't leave any "bridges" so you shouldn't have to do any touch-up.
Each stencil layer will need to be applied to your cabinet , painted and then ~~left for 24 hours before~~ pealing off the stencil and then aligning and applying the next color's layer. The black layer has so much tiny detail that it should probably be pealed off while not fully dry to minimize the risk of lifting the teeny tiny dots.

I could also use the same file to do colored vinyl graphics (white/yellow/pink/black with satin/matte finish), but the colors would be slightly off and the small elements of the black layer might be susceptible to people picking/pealing them off (you could spray the cabinet sides with a layer of satin clear-coat afterwards to prevent this). Paint stencils are the way to go, but this would be an easier and faster option.

ChadTower · « **Reply #92 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:50:17 am »

Damn those horses.

If you leave a stencil on for that long, won't it peel paint edges up with it, or is that only an issue with latex?

shardian · « **Reply #93 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:53:27 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on October 19, 2007, 08:50:17 am

Damn those horses.

If you leave a stencil on for that long, won't it peel paint edges up with it, or is that only an issue with latex?

If you paint latex over latex, the top layer will peel off. If you go VERY slow and keep a knife handy, it will work fine.

ChadTower · « **Reply #94 on:** October 19, 2007, 08:57:42 am »

Hrm. I wouldn't want to use Latex on a cabinet anyway if I could avoid it. I've always had bad experiences with not removing masking immediately if I use latex.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #95 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:00:11 am »

The vinyl mask has a low-tac adhesive so it won't lift the layer of paint underneath, but the edges are a concern. Scuffing the surface lightly through the stencil should help prevent this, but I've never done stenciling with a latex paint.

ChadTower · « **Reply #96 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:01:38 am »

What paint would you use? An enamel or oil? I'm still learning about paints.

audiomidiman · « **Reply #97 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:04:08 am »

So, were the stencil's at all usable? I sure hope so seeing you spent months on this. What I don't understand is why wouldn't you guys do one set first to do a TEST?

As far as paint colors, I have a fully restored Ms. Pac using vinyl overlays from an undisclosed source. The colors are spot on to an original painted ms. pac. I also have an extra piece of front art. If you are interested and agree on one paint source and the finish you want (I suggest satin or semi gloss) I will be more than happy to go to the paint store and have them scan each color off my front art.

I suggest Sherwin Williams or I guess Home Depot.

Bill

ChadTower · « **Reply #98 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:06:51 am »

The original paint codes are out there. Shouldn't be a problem, thanks though.

He hasn't spent months on it... he spent a bit of time months back, and now that it has been bumped, he has agreed to spend a bit more time now if he has some available. It's not like it was a long term project he has been burning oil on...

saint · « **Reply #99 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:19:05 am »

Wanted to get a "me too, I want one" in here

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #100 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:20:53 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on October 19, 2007, 09:01:38 am

What paint would you use? An enamel or oil? I'm still learning about paints.

I'm not an expert either, we only stock Matthews Acrylic Polyurethane at the shop so that's what I've always used. I would think a latex would work just as well though; so long as you test it out first and take care with the edges.

Oh, and... http://appolo.com/colorcodes/ms_pac_color_codes.htm

ChadTower · « **Reply #101 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:22:49 am »

I hope we can translate those to another manufacturer because that Home Depot Glidden is pure garbage.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #102 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:31:27 am »

I'm not sure how good these cross-references are but...
Glidden Sunny Side Up
Glidden Passion Flower
Glidden Rhapsody

ChadTower · « **Reply #103 on:** October 19, 2007, 09:36:13 am »

Hrm... not many ICI Paints stores around... but I bet I could bring those codes into the Sherwin Williams down the street and get matches. I talked to them a while back and the guy there said he would use enamels on an arcade cabinet, but that he'd go to RI to get them since the laws in MA don't allow them to put a couple things in it and the quality is a bit lower as a result.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #104 on:** October 19, 2007, 10:23:58 am »

Look - I really am working on it, I swear!

ChadTower · « **Reply #105 on:** October 19, 2007, 10:27:02 am »

Those lines actually look better than original. Nice!

2600 · « **Reply #106 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:05:29 pm »

Looking good. I may have to jump in on this.

knave · « **Reply #107 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:14:29 pm »

Why would we need to leave the stencils on for so long? Also if I were to use latex paint and remove them right away what issues would I face? I've researched the paint codes, so that's not a problem. I have pretty much just used latex paint so would like to continue. I've also seen some pretty good results.

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #108 on:** October 19, 2007, 01:28:51 pm »

You don't have to leave the stencil on that long, I usually only take it off when I'm putting on the second color's stencil (when the first color is dry enough for the second stencil layer to be safely applied to it - usually 24 hours, this will be different for every paint mix and environment).

Maybe with latex paint you could peel the stencil off when it's half-dry to help prevent the edge lifting, but if the undercoat is scuffed a little you shouldn't have to worry about it.

knave · « **Reply #109 on:** October 19, 2007, 04:53:55 pm »

No worries, I could do some testing with tape and some scrap wood...

That way I could find out a workable time frame to let the latex paint dry abit without the risk of it coming up with the stencil.

Next question...when you use these do you do only one coat? two? I'd think the least number of coats possible would lead to a smoother end result.

WunderCade · « **Reply #110 on:** October 19, 2007, 07:39:16 pm »

Wow. That looks nice JoyMonkey.

Superb work.

Whenever you're ready for orders...let us know how you'd like to proceed.

Neilyboy · « **Reply #111 on:** October 19, 2007, 11:04:45 pm »

man im excited now seeing that this may come together. only thing im worried about is getting color matches at like a lowes or home depot here in the states. Im guessing those appolo codes are still up to date for home depot paints..

Neil

WunderCade · « **Reply #112 on:** October 19, 2007, 11:26:02 pm »

Quote from: Neilyboy on October 19, 2007, 11:04:45 pm

man im excited now seeing that this may come together. only thing im worried about is getting color matches at like a lowes or home depot here in the states. Im guessing those appolo codes are still up to date for home depot paints..

Neil

Not to worry Neil.....Home Depot still carries those Gliddens Colors and they are spot on, I already color tested them, I'm just waiting for the stencils to start spraying. But yep, they're still valid codes.

WunderCade · « **Reply #113 on:** October 19, 2007, 11:38:51 pm »

Just an FYI for ya, JoyMonkey........the kick panel vector on the AAL is from the Reunion Ms. Pac machine which has a different coin door configuration than the original.

I believe the Reunion machine has an over-under style coin door which resulted in the art being narrower while the original coin door and kick plate art is wider.

Quote from: pcates on May 30, 2006, 11:46:56 am

It looks like the front vector art at the library is not 100% accurate.......They are going to try to rescale it so the opening is large enough for the coin door...

Here is the latest update on the front art... The differences are now down to the 1/4" or so. Hopefully it will be exact within a day or 2. Then this project should finally be done. Thanks, for the patience...
Patrick

JoyMonkey · « **Reply #114 on:** October 19, 2007, 11:43:22 pm »

I'll try to head down to the local arcade tomorrow and verify the size of their front artwork, though it'll probably be the same as pcates measurements. Thanks for the reminder!

WunderCade · « **Reply #115 on:** October 23, 2007, 01:35:28 am »

Just keeping this up on page 1. Go JoyMonkey.

Spyridon · « **Reply #116 on:** October 24, 2007, 01:48:37 pm »

I'm also interested in these when they are available.

ChadTower · « **Reply #117 on:** October 24, 2007, 02:36:37 pm »

This is definitely key to the custom pink Ms Pac that got put on hold a while back because of lack of stencils.

WunderCade · « **Reply #118 on:** October 25, 2007, 01:04:33 am »

Yep....what's that saying....? "Non-vector inclined beggars can't be choosers."

I think Pr0k actually vector-perfected the entire artwork for this job but then he decided against selling the stencils. Two steps forward, three steps back.

Anyways, hopefully we can now finally get some stencils.

ChadTower · « **Reply #119 on:** October 25, 2007, 08:51:10 am »

There was also that potential group buy from a web vendor where the end product ended up being total trash. That was disappointing.


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