Author Topic: Credit Signal (Read 6413 times)

gabypotter · « **on:** February 18, 2006, 04:18:33 pm »

hi, did you know how can i hack a keyboard,
to send a credit signal to wincab?
i have "Weiya HI06CS" electronic coin selector
and it works selects the coins, and send them to
a box where i stored, but i cant find a way
to send a signal to wincab,
did you know wich cable, and where
i should solder on the keyboard circuit?

and the what should i do in wincab

gabypotter · « **Reply #1 on:** February 18, 2006, 04:19:25 pm »

sorry about my english!

jp · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2006, 07:28:55 am »

your coincollecter should sent out a contact wich should be connected to the keyboard symbol selected in "controls.ini" standard "0" for btn_coin1,"9" for button_coin2
this means yoy have to open your keyboard and connect wire's to the coresponding switch

hope this helps

gabypotter · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2006, 10:21:35 pm »

thank you!

...but can you tell me how can i connect
coin signal wire by hacking a keyboard,
cause coin signal has only 1 wire, and
i think i need 2 wires to make contact and
send a signal to wincab, that is the part
where i'm stuck

how many cables should i connect?
and how?

sorry but im very frustated

and i don

jp · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:58:18 pm »

your coin collector should have two wires,haven't seen it but i think one wire is the ground (metal housing).(by using a multimeter you can find out).

by hacking your keyboard you have to find out which contact you need
you could connect the wires strait to a keyboard-symbol (ie "0" )
this means open keyboard find the switch that gives the "0" and connect the wires
then in "controls.ini" give "btn_coin1" the value of the switch ( "0" )
(if it is "0" than "btn_coin1" already has this value)

gabypotter · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2006, 05:29:44 pm »

ok, thank you,
you mean i should soulder
white wire and black wire to keyboard?
here`s a picture of my coin selector
Thank you very much

Chris · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:39:11 am »

I'm not quite sure what do do with this.. I've only worked with mechanical coin mechs, not electronic ones....

jp · « **Reply #7 on:** February 22, 2006, 02:12:06 pm »

did some looking around,and looks like you already got your answer
from Ken Layton :
"The red is for +12 volts dc power to operate the electronic coin acceptor. Black is common for both the power and the coin signal sections. White is the coin signal output (coin accepted and credit pulse issued). The two gray wires go to a 12 volt dc coin counting meter (optional) which is not necessary for this unit to function. The coin counter is an accessory."
on another forum.
after reading this you have to connect white and black wire to your "keyboard-symbol-switch"
and connect red to +12V dc and the black to negative !!!!! black used twice
but be carefull ; use a different powersuply(separat)!!!! else you could damage keyboard / pc !!!.

best way to do this is to use the counterswitch to operate a relais , and then use the relais-contacts to switch the "keyboard-symbol-switch"

need a drawing how to connect ?
how do you select songs ?

gabypotter · « **Reply #8 on:** February 22, 2006, 06:13:38 pm »

thank you very much!
i think im understanding a little...
if you can post a drawing, it will help me
more...thank you!!!

i select songs with a keyboard

jp · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2006, 12:26:30 pm »

1 drawing:

2 selection:
if you use keyboard to select songs AND A COINCOLLECTER (which gives a keyboard-symbol (ie "0"))
what is stopping me to use the "0"- key on the keyboard ?
meaning what use is the coincollecter if i can use the "0" - key to get the same result (ad credits)
looks like you have to get rid of your keyboard(get it out of sight),and use songselection in another way
i added some switches to my cabinet (and soulderd them to the keyboard ) and hid the keyboard
in this way it also not possible to shut down the jukebox (no keyboard!)
you can see this in pict2 and pict3 the keyboard is attached to a folding panel whitch in normal state only allows you to use the selection-buttons(prev.alpha,a,b,c,d,next alpha
prev.page,1,2,3,4,next page)
so i use 12 buttons to make a selection

jp · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2006, 04:51:58 pm »

btw, you don't have to hack your keyboard.
found on several site's a keyboard emulator
(i think its just a keyboard chip) with connect options for separate switches (buttons)
this would be easyer than hacking a keyboard (i think ?)

gabypotter · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2006, 09:09:20 pm »

Quote from: jp on February 23, 2006, 12:26:30 pm

1 drawing:

2 selection:
if you use keyboard to select songs AND A COINCOLLECTER (which gives a keyboard-symbol (ie "0"))
what is stopping me to use the "0"- key on the keyboard ?
meaning what use is the coincollecter if i can use the "0" - key to get the same result (ad credits)
looks like you have to get rid of your keyboard(get it out of sight),and use songselection in another way
i added some switches to my cabinet (and soulderd them to the keyboard ) and hid the keyboard
in this way it also not possible to shut down the jukebox (no keyboard!)
you can see this in pict2 and pict3 the keyboard is attached to a folding panel whitch in normal state only allows you to use the selection-buttons(prev.alpha,a,b,c,d,next alpha
prev.page,1,2,3,4,next page)
so i use 12 buttons to make a selection

thanks for your help!

oooops!!!....what does relay means?

jp · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2006, 01:37:20 pm »

a relais is an elktr. component
it is a switch which is operated (switches) when power is suplied to the spool (i think it is named ?)
oops, looked around i misspelled the word it's: relays
surch yahoo for it
or try : "http://www.sanyu-usa.com/products/relay.html#1D-14G"
that are relays, switches operated when power is aplied
i think you wil know what i mean

gabypotter · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2006, 04:50:32 pm »

ok!, thankyou!

here`s another question
hope you know

how can i program wincab...
i mean.. if want to connect coin selector
by lpt "printer port", what should i write here:

JOY1_UP = BTN_PREVPG
JOY1_DOWN = BTN_NEXTPG
JOY1_LEFT = BTN_FIRSTPG
JOY1_RIGHT = BTN_LASTPG
JOY1_BUTTON1 = BTN_1
JOY1_BUTTON2 = BTN_2
JOY1_BUTTON3 = BTN_3
JOY1_BUTTON4 = BTN_4
JOY1_BUTTON5 = BTN_SELECT

thats the way i found today to connect
coin selector, and when i insert the coin
it has signal, in the program "ppjoy"
but when i scan for signal it shows me
the signal as "Digital 15"
i think is the name of the pin, or something
but how can i program that in wincab?

heres a picture of ppjoy
hope you undertand me, and
sorry for thist nightmare to you!

jp · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2006, 04:50:04 am »

Quote from: gabypotter on February 24, 2006, 04:50:32 pm

how can i program wincab...
i mean.. if want to connect coin selector
by lpt "printer port", what should i write here:

JOY1_UP = BTN_PREVPG
JOY1_DOWN = BTN_NEXTPG
JOY1_LEFT = BTN_FIRSTPG
JOY1_RIGHT = BTN_LASTPG
JOY1_BUTTON1 = BTN_1
JOY1_BUTTON2 = BTN_2
JOY1_BUTTON3 = BTN_3
JOY1_BUTTON4 = BTN_4
JOY1_BUTTON5 = BTN_SELECT

thats the way i found today to connect
coin selector, and when i insert the coin
it has signal, in the program "ppjoy"
but when i scan for signal it shows me
the signal as "Digital 15"
i think is the name of the pin, or something
but how can i program that in wincab?

looks like your coincollector acts as button1
so change:
JOY1_BUTTON1 = BTN_1
to :
JOY1_BUTTON1 = BTN_COIN1
i think this wil work (make sure the "joystick "you use is joy1 )

to everyone : if i'm telling it te wrong way please feel free to correct me

Chris · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2006, 09:34:26 am »

WinCab cannot read the parallel port directly. jp's message looks correct, though: by using ppjoy to read the parallel port as a joystick, you should be able to use his mapping to read it.

The missing bit of information here is how you're interfacing the coin mech to the parallel port. Is there a special interface you're using for this? It seems like an unusual solution...

--Chris

gabypotter · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2006, 06:38:43 pm »

Quote from: Chris on February 27, 2006, 09:34:26 am

WinCab cannot read the parallel port directly. jp's message looks correct, though: by using ppjoy to read the parallel port as a joystick, you should be able to use his mapping to read it.

The missing bit of information here is how you're interfacing the coin mech to the parallel port. Is there a special interface you're using for this? It seems like an unusual solution...

--Chris

thaks, i will try it!
yes im using a LPT interface i have made
heres a webpage (spanish) it works for the buttons, and it works
for the coin mech too

http://www.marcianitos.org/tutoriales/IC018.htm

gabypotter · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2006, 02:55:19 am »

oh my god, forget everything i was saying
i finally can give credits by hachink a keyboard
the problem is over, it was a little swith i had
to move, the one that says n.o. n.c normally
open, or normally close, but its all fixed!!!

thanks to you!!!

im very happy, thank you very much for
all your help!!!

again, sorry for my english!!!

gabypotter · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2006, 02:58:12 am »

its me again

heres another question!
if i want to play a song for .20 cents
how can i program credits

by inserting 2 coins of 10 cents

i mean, i want the credits appears
after i insert the second coin
is this posible?

arthas · « **Reply #19 on:** October 05, 2006, 05:31:48 pm »

see this page,

http://combuxtion.com/?p=16


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