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| CheffoJeffo:
While I certainly appreciate the desires of those who want to reengineer and come up with a decent way to mount a big Tron handle on a smaller stick, my preference (indeed, all I am interested in) is for a true repro (and I would want at least 2, possibly more). I'm not trying to disrespect MinerAl's dream in anyway (although I do believe that the big handle requires a bigger base, or at least a metal base), just wanting my voice to be heard amongst the excitement. Thanks to Fozzy for even considering it ... anything I can do, just ask. Cheers. EDIT: And if you did a set of translucent red, I'd take 2 sets as well. |
| Xiaou2:
Miner Al, No matter how 'light' you play, the additional weight and leverage will amplify the forces. And since the sticks are not designed to handle that.. it "WILL" wear the stick quickly - and or break it immediatly. Replace your super every month? I have a Spy Hunter standup, and I tell you what... the Wheel assembly is built like a tank. Its got Huge metal arms with monster rubber bumpers. You can slam the thing as hard as you can, and not come anywhere near to bending the internals. The thing is, its not just designed like that for the abuse... The game REQUIRES you to 'slam' the wheel HARD AND FAST in order to bump the indestructable cars off the road. If you try to bump them slow.. the bump will not be enough, and they may even manage to push you instead. Remember also that since the stick will weight more... you need a heavier spring to keep it centered... otherwise it will be sloppy and not always center. And then add a heavier spring... coupled with the extra weight... and now it takes more strength to Move the stick in any direction. So, you use more force.. and that force coupled with your extra leverage.. and the weight.. = damage force. This dosnt even consider the frenzied quick jerk reaction you will encounter in the heat of battle. I sympathize with your delemma, however, I also know the mechanics behind this as well. Ive also built my own version of the trigger sticks mind you... which is another reason I know why. Ohh another Major problem , is that the "stick travel" is too wide when a long handel is used on a Happs competiton base. So, you will have to move what will seem like 3 miles of distance to activate any switch. Your reaction times will be horrific.. and your wrist will endure great punshment. The base simply is not designed for the extra height.. and thus the pivot point is all wrong, resulting in poor control. |
| Fozzy The Bear:
There are you short throw sticks out there.... that would solve the throw problem... There are also some pretty damned strong sticks on the market other than Happs ones.... What you guys use these on at the end of the day is entirely up to you. Which is why I'm going to do the two flavourd versions... you can fit them to whatever you want then. It does seem that there is enough interest to make this worth doing. So as soon as I can get hold of a set to copy I'll get started on it. Best Regards, Julian (Fozzy The Bear) |
| SirPeale:
I have a Xenophobe cab that I need the triggers for. They're the same as the Tron triggers (but not blue). Anyone know of a source? |
| MinerAl:
Xiaou2, We'll see :) Perhaps I am underestimating the weight of a hollow plastic handle. And without the enormous metal shaft inside, that's all we're talking about here... a hollow plastic handle. Thanks for suggesting that I do not understand the mechanics of the situation. I good-naturedly disagree. Although the handle is quite tall, one does not play Tron with their hand on top of the stick like they would with a ball top. In order to use the trigger, the bottom of your hand needs to be in only a little higher position than it needs to be using a bat stick. I don't know how you play, but I tend to move the stick with the base of my hand (my pinkie and ring fingers and the muscles in my palm on that side of the hand). I do understand that a longer lever makes it easier to exert more force, but I don't think the difference is as great as you make it out to be, since the hand position is only a bit higher. I too have hacked trigger sticks. So I'm not operating entirely from theory. That said, I was using the Super as an example because I was familiar with the hack. If I were doing it again, I would use a shorter throw stick like a t-stick or a suzo500, both of which are also of sturdier construction than the admittedly cheesy Super. I agree it will not be as bullet proof as a real tron stick. I agree that it would be possible to grab the top of the very tall Tron stick and yank away until you powdered a super base or bent the hollow shaft. I just don't think that even in the heat of battle I will accidentally accomplish this. Maybe I don't play my machine seriously enough. I respect your opinion and see your points. I'm just too dumb and stubborn not to try it anyway if given the chance :) Peale, From what I understand the Xenophobe handle (and trigger and so on) is the same as the Happ offering, and that the individual parts of the Happ stick are available form their site. Go to the exploded view and write down the parts numbers of the bits you need, and then go fill them in to the order form. Al |
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