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auction coming up - cabs available.. advice?
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: dax on February 17, 2006, 11:29:33 pm ---What's wrong with the RB cockpit? Is this related to the classic x-y monitor problems? Is there some way to tell how bad the monitor may be?
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I think Cheffo Jeffo's post is in relation to this comment at the start of the thread:
--- Quote ---but the Red Baron cockpit must be kinda rare - although I assume the x-y monitor there wouldn't be MAME-compatible, the notion of a cockpit MAME cab is kind of appealing.
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As AP felon states, of all the games mentioned, the RB cockpit is the one game listed that I see as a true collectible with some intrinsic worth.
If you want to buy it and preserve it as a RB in your gameroom, and/or if you want to buy it for $250 and try to get $400 for it on E-bay, I don't have any qualms with it, but I myself, I think Cheffo, and probably a majority of the board would be upset if you bought it, and painted the sideart over to blue with a galaxy scene, threw a raster monitor in it, and added swappable SF and car racing CP's . . .
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Wetworks on February 17, 2006, 09:29:47 pm ---To Tiger-Heli..
A little off the subject
Wow man you can complete Tiger-Heli on one credit! I used to play this at college too!! Probally to much! :) It is still one of my all time favourite games.. Couldn't and still can't get through it!
Congrats!
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Well - if it makes you feel any better, I only did it one time (ever). The game is largely pattern repetition and memory (everything always appears in the same place), and there was a guy there at the time that was much better than me, and I would watch him play before I had a turn, so I had some prewarning of what was coming up.
OTOH, my avg. scores back then were in the 250,000 range with 3 ships. Avg scores on MAME are around 150,000 with 5 ships, and the fast response dipswitch setting.
BTW, I am not blaming the arcade controls or MAME's accuracy for this. It is three things:
1) Less practice: I would play at least 30 minutes of T-H a day, three to five days a week back in the day. Now I have RL, jobs, etc, so it gets played for maybe 45 minutes to an hour, every other month or so . . .
2) No real incentive: Okay, it was only a quarter a game back then, but four games were still the cost of a McDonald's hamburger, so you didn't just mess up and figure you would make up for it with the next game.
3) More distractions: The student center had Tiger-Heli, Top Gunner, Ikari, and a handful of other games I didn't care about. T-H was my fav, but the other ones would get played if I didn't feel like waiting. Now I have all three, plus Asteroids, Defender, Centipede, Galaga, Gyruss, Time Pilot, Pac-Man, BattleZone, and 2500 other fun games I never even heard of, plus PC games to choose from when I am bored and get free time, neither of which happens often.
dax:
Ok, I will take pictures and report back on this. Thanks very much for the info. I agree that restoring the RB would probably be better - I will look at the condition. Personally, I was never a big fan of that game. I'd rather have battle zone.. but I'm sure BZ was more common - is it possible that this is a BZ cab with RB artwork over it?
The last time I went to one of these auctions there were about a dozen people there. I have no idea what to expect now, especially in the wake of the hurricane and the whole area economy in shambles.
Witchboard:
--- Quote from: dax on February 18, 2006, 12:30:34 pm ---...is it possible that this is a BZ cab with RB artwork over it?
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No.
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on February 18, 2006, 10:23:13 am ---As AP felon states, of all the games mentioned, the RB cockpit is the one game listed that I see as a true collectible with some intrinsic worth.
If you want to buy it and preserve it as a RB in your gameroom, and/or if you want to buy it for $250 and try to get $400 for it on E-bay, I don't have any qualms with it, but I myself, I think Cheffo, and probably a majority of the board would be upset if you bought it, and painted the sideart over to blue with a galaxy scene, threw a raster monitor in it, and added swappable SF and car racing CP's . . .
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Yep ... and the whole "metal playfield that was steel instead of wood" and "nightmare" hole-cutting revelation wasn't generating a lot of confidence that dax has the patience (one can always acquire expertise, but the patience must be there first) to deal with a classic X-Y cockpit (they're big, there is the whole vector issue and it is an old game) without doing something blasphemous.
It would be a crime to MAME that unless it was already loaded on a truck on the way to the fire or landfill.
No offense intended to dax -- if you want to restore or resell, that is GREAT, but it would be a crime to do anything else (and owning an old vector can be frustrating to the point where you will want to MAME it ... I have had 3 issues with my Asteroids in the past 3 months).
Cheers & good luck at the auction.
Apologies for being so obtuse ... I was channeling Cabernet and trouble shooting a Joust sound board at the time ...