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APFelon:


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Tekken, High Impact Football, Street Fighter II, Skull & Crossbones, Simpsons, Toki, Knockout, Arch Rivals, Red Baron (cockpit), X-Men, Lethal Enforcer II


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I will try to rate these from least to most valuable, and I'll try to explain why I believe as I do. Unfortunately, arcade game markets vary WILDLY from one region to the next, from what I have seen.

Toki- I'm willing to bet that this is a conversion from some other game-- JAMMAtized and bastardized. The PCB is probably worth less than the small squirt of shampoo you use in the shower.  The game reeks. Unless this is a conversion of a Quantum cabinet with all of the cab art  hidden in pristine condition under some gently laid formica, if you pay 20$ you paid too much.

Street Fighter II- A common early fighter.  No dedicated SF2s exist... the one pictured is in a generic Dynamo cabinet which was common to see a SF2 in. When I say this game is COMMON, I mean COMMON. Only get it if you are a die hard SF2 buff, or you want to MAME it. I'd pay 50$ for one.

Knock Out- An Amadar clone / ripoff? Not sure of the value of this, but I'm willing to bet it's more than a SF2 or a Toki. Depending on its condition, I might pay 75$ (but I am unfamiliar with the game and the cab... dedicated cabinet I might go higher if it's unique anough).

(TIE) Arch Rivals / High Impact Football. Not popular enough to be considered "classics" but decent games in their own right.  I'd expect to pay around 125-150 for one in good shape.

Tekken- I remember this cabinet to be quite ugly and unapproachable. The first Tekken was the worst Tekken, especially compared to a VF2 sitting right next to it. I'd go 150-175 on it.

Skull and Crossbones- Cool dedicated cabinet, if I remember correctly. Boring game, though.  Interesting to some collectors because of its unique cabinet style. I'd give 150-175 for one in reasonable shape.

X-Men- I am going to assume that this is the 25" 4 player cabinet. Some people loved this game. I am not among them.  However, it is a licensed title, and the comic book geeks would likely have an interest in it... thus raising its price.  200-400 dollars, depending on the cabinet style and condition.  I would NOT MAME this cabinet, as the value lies in its art.

The Simpsons- Many operators still have this beastie on location.  Another game people love, but I find it kind of boring. However, for the same reasons above, the subject and licensing, not to mentionlthe 25" monitor,  boosts its pricea bit. I'd say anywhere from 200-450 depending on who is at the auction. Another cabinet I wouldn't MAME.

Lethal Enforcers 2- This is a tough call. I almost want to rank it below X-Men and The Simpsons, but gun games, even as old as LE2, earn on location. If you have an operator at your auction, expect this one to go fairly high if it works and is in decent shape. 150-600

Red Baron Cockpit- Operators will NOT be interested inthis one, as XY monitors are generally a headache, the cabinet is too big and it looks like a fossil. Collectors, on the other hand, may take an interest. I wouldn't be shocked to see this one go as high as 600-1000. Stranger things have happened.

Hope that helps.

APf




dax:

Wow, thanks APF for the great comments!

I never thought much about whether or not "operators" would be at this auction.   I have no idea what kind of formulas they use to determine profitability, but it does make sense.

If the cabinets are non-working, are there any components in any of the cabinets that are worth cannibalizing?  I don't get the impression there's really anything unique hardware-wise in the lot.


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--- Quote from: dax on February 18, 2006, 03:53:19 am ---Wow, thanks APF for the great comments!

I never thought much about whether or not "operators" would be at this auction.   I have no idea what kind of formulas they use to determine profitability, but it does make sense.

If the cabinets are non-working, are there any components in any of the cabinets that are worth cannibalizing?  I don't get the impression there's really anything unique hardware-wise in the lot.


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Well, the S&C pcb and maruquee.  RB, any parts that work!

APFelon:


--- Quote from: dax on February 18, 2006, 03:53:19 am ---
I never thought much about whether or not "operators" would be at this auction.   I have no idea what kind of formulas they use to determine profitability, but it does make sense.

If the cabinets are non-working, are there any components in any of the cabinets that are worth cannibalizing?  I don't get the impression there's really anything unique hardware-wise in the lot.


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Well, there is no set formula to determine whether a game makes a profit or not other than "does this game make me money". Games that provide a gaming experience that can't be had at home typically do better than old videos (no matter the video). The only exception I can think of is Ms. Pac Man, but that game doesn't compare earningwise to gun games etc.

As for cannibalizing... it depends. If you go to a Superauction where there are 200+ games and 400 people there, prices will generally go low and you could consider parting a machine out after buying one for 50$ or so. However, there are a couple of variables at the auction you plan to attend that are yet undefined such as:

How many people will be there looking to buy those handful of games? How publicized is the auction? If you have 200 people show up to bid on 10 games or so, expect them to go HIGH (Even Toki) which would make parting them out not cost effective. I had one guy on this forum get all bent out of shape for announcing the local MOMA auction here on BYOAC. Smaller attendence means lower prices.

Is the auction in a urban or rural setting? Is it far from home for most people? This will affect attendence and price. Urbanites will typically spend more for such luxuries than ruralites. For example, a going rate for a S.T.U.N. Runner in Minneapolis is around 300$. I picked one up in St. Cloud for 150$ due to a smaller market and less demand (Adam Smith at work, LOL).

Who will be there? Operators have pretty deep pockets. The last Minneapolis auction had an op who was willing to spend an obscene amouts of money for JAMMA junk, halfassed conversions and 15 year old garbage, thus edging out collectors, hobbiests, MAMErs and those of us on a smaller game budget. 450$ for a Road Riot conversion that looked as though it had been dropped off of a truck, etc.

Good luck at the auction. Let us know what that stuff sells for and their condition... I for one would be interested to know.

APf


MYX:

Check this out. It is a guy who went to many auctions and actually took the time to write down all the results. The auctions that he lists are several years old but seem to be somewhat close to today's prices.

Another variable is weather. If it is really cold and rainy, some folks will not want to go out to an auction. This is great for you as it means less competition.

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