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jerryjanis:
--- Quote from: Lilwolf on February 22, 2003, 12:57:35 pm ---I dont' think you will see it in the main mame distribution..
but it's a perfect add to analog mame!
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Analog Mame is perfect because you have the option to disable the calibration spinner if you're trying to use a trackball or a mouse. Am I on the right track?
--- Quote ---I would love to hear it. But even then, I haven't seen a single analog controller that would really work. I wrote a program that would convert a rotating mouse motion into a joystick directional motion that worked very well.. (it kept track of the angles you are moving and what quad you where in to see where you are going.... it really ended up working pretty good). Anyway, I wanted to add it to mame at some point... just never finished it (like all my other projects)
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Yeah, if you could dig up the code, I'd like to check it out. Porting it to C would be easy enough.
Ideally, we'd have all of these options for control methods for the game (thinking out loud):
1) Arcade Controller
2) 8-Way Joystick
3) Trackball (with calibration axis disabled)
4) Spinner (with calibration axis disabled)
5) Analog Joystick (joystick position->angle)
6) Lilwolf's wacky mouse->angle hack
At least in the way that Mame currently works, most of these rule out the other ones... For example, if Lilwolf's hack was put into the code, then that build wouldn't play with the arcade controller, trackball, or spinner properly. I guess I could try adding separate drivers for different control types (don't know if that would be the way to go or not):
1) 720arcjoy
2) 7208way
3, 4) 720 (tracball/spinner - uses original settings)
5) 720anjoy (analog joy)
6) 720anglm (angle mouse)
Possibly, some of these could be combined, but that might make it confusing to work with.
--- Quote from: u_rebelscum on February 15, 2003, 07:53:27 pm ---Which reminds me. Anyone know where I can a replacement pivot ball for a 720 controller?
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Me too... The 2 white balls and the black rubbery slider that goes between them are in rough shape... I think my pivot ball is Ok, though. I'm thinking I'm gonna have to go to Home Depot and examine every item looking for something that is shaped like the parts I need.
Lilwolf:
I haven't seen a 720 controller on ebay in about 6 months. And before then they were always really expensive
could someone with a real one post the real dimensions (how tall the stick is... What angles it comes out at... The radius of the circle it makes. Ect.
I'm wondering if there would be any possible hacks to get it working (yes... now I'm getting a real jonze for some 720... and nowhere to fix it)
and I will take a look for the code.
bigleechild:
--- Quote from: Lilwolf on February 22, 2003, 05:19:28 pm ---I haven't seen a 720 controller on ebay in about 6 months. And before then they were always really expensive
could someone with a real one post the real dimensions (how tall the stick is... What angles it comes out at... The radius of the circle it makes. Ect.
I'm wondering if there would be any possible hacks to get it working (yes... now I'm getting a real jonze for some 720... and nowhere to fix it)
and I will take a look for the code.
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I have one that I would sell.
SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: bigleechild on February 23, 2003, 10:43:22 am ---
--- Quote from: Lilwolf on February 22, 2003, 05:19:28 pm ---I haven't seen a 720 controller on ebay in about 6 months. And before then they were always really expensive
could someone with a real one post the real dimensions (how tall the stick is... What angles it comes out at... The radius of the circle it makes. Ect.
I'm wondering if there would be any possible hacks to get it working (yes... now I'm getting a real jonze for some 720... and nowhere to fix it)
and I will take a look for the code.
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I have one that I would sell.
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Do you all with 720 controls have picture I could see? How hard would it be for Kelsey to modify one of his spinners into a 720 controller? It;d still be useful in other games?
Also, reading through this thread, I'm suprised it doesn't sound like the calibration wheel just triggers an optical swith to automatically make the skateboarder in the direction it needs.
jerryjanis:
Here are some pictures, let me know if you want more specific ones.
http://66.78.4.185/~jstookey/arcade/720/720-pictures.php
The actual joystick is rather complicated. It has a lot of doohickies that allow it to handle abuse and still work nicely.
I would be really easy to add the calibration spinner disc to an existing spinner. The hard part would be to figure out how to make a joystick out of it. For starters, it would probably require the same caution that a steering wheel/spinner needs to prevent damage caused by the extra force applied to it.
I can't seem to envision a simple way to make an acceptable joystick handle for a spinner, but I would LOVE to hear ideas on it. It would be awesome to have an option for a homemade/Kelsey-bought 720