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Necro:


--- Quote from: Warborg on February 02, 2006, 03:48:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: Necro on February 02, 2006, 03:28:38 pm ---Bit of a tweak (save 50-200$ depending on the processor) and it only takes 2-3 bios settings?  Yeah...def worth it.  Esp. with the lower heat some procs are putting off....there's no real reason NOT to.

That is...IF you know what your doing. :)


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True, you can squeeze a bit more...  But then again, you can of course run into weird behavior, lockups, etc.  And when pushing up the bus speed can also cause some timing issues with other components.  And for any significant OC you are probably going to have to get extra cooling, which will pretty much make up the difference to the next highest CPU anyway.  So if can be done, and you may actually get some benefit out of it, but for the most part it's best just left to the die-hards...  Lets face it, a lot of people OC their stuff just to say that they could do it...

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Actually, there are ways to get around the bus speeds thing now, as some will run the bus at an independent clock from other components, as well as additional multipliers, etc.  Also, because of the lower heat output of some of the newer chips, you can do a fair amount of OC and say well within acceptable heat ranges even with a stock cooler.

Heck some companies make this insanely easy now with 'turbo' type settings in their BIOS that will kick stuff up a bit. :)  Kind of humorous really.


Warborg:


--- Quote from: Necro on February 03, 2006, 04:05:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: Warborg on February 02, 2006, 03:48:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: Necro on February 02, 2006, 03:28:38 pm ---Bit of a tweak (save 50-200$ depending on the processor) and it only takes 2-3 bios settings?  Yeah...def worth it.  Esp. with the lower heat some procs are putting off....there's no real reason NOT to.

That is...IF you know what your doing. :)


--- End quote ---

True, you can squeeze a bit more...  But then again, you can of course run into weird behavior, lockups, etc.  And when pushing up the bus speed can also cause some timing issues with other components.  And for any significant OC you are probably going to have to get extra cooling, which will pretty much make up the difference to the next highest CPU anyway.  So if can be done, and you may actually get some benefit out of it, but for the most part it's best just left to the die-hards...  Lets face it, a lot of people OC their stuff just to say that they could do it...

--- End quote ---

Actually, there are ways to get around the bus speeds thing now, as some will run the bus at an independent clock from other components, as well as additional multipliers, etc.  Also, because of the lower heat output of some of the newer chips, you can do a fair amount of OC and say well within acceptable heat ranges even with a stock cooler.


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Yes, I know you can have your bus speeds locked while OCing the CPU, of course not all MBs do that, nor would most average users even know anything about those settings.  And heat is not the ONLY factor when it comes to OCing, you realize.  Also, you can also shorten the lifespan of said CPUs, such as conditions like electromigration.  Admittedly, the shorter lifespan generally isn't an issue, cause in most cases you will upgrade well before you get to that point anyway, but it can possibly be a factor.  Point is, I'm not sure about the value of risking your equipment, and at least on newer stuff voiding your warranty to squeeze a little extra performance out of it.  I could OC my videocard core and memory speeds (going from an ATI x800xt's default of 500/500 to something like 520/540 to match the speed of an x850xt), but at the same time the gains are small enough to not want to risk stability of the $370 card itself...

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