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| ChodTheWacko:
--- Quote from: ErikRuud on February 06, 2006, 03:55:14 pm --- --- Quote from: RandyT on February 06, 2006, 03:51:20 pm ---Since I had it apart, I thought it would be irresponsible of me not to take pictures of the camera....:) --- End quote --- How difficult was it to dis-assemle? How hard will it be to re-assemle? --- End quote --- yah - my entire train of thought can be easily proven/disproven by taping the sensor outside of the gun now, and seeing if you can shorten the minimum shooting distance. If it's easy to reassemble, I'll give it a try. |
| sci:
What the crap, now I cant calibrate my guns at all? whats going on? if I hold a+b, well .. the gnu never goes in calibration mode. WHAT IS THIS!? |
| Silver:
--- Quote from: jelwell on February 06, 2006, 03:52:00 pm --- Are there any consumer light guns that track in real-time, other than the LCD TopGun? I know arcade games like Ghost Squad offer real-time tracking. But every gun I've ever seen, available to consumers, can only track when you pull the trigger. That's hardly real-time, that's more like click-time. --- End quote --- Using smog's driver or wingun, any guncon2 compatible can "real-time" track in windows/mame. However, they can only track over BRIGHT areas of the screen. So a full screen desktop actually tracks quite well (although I had to turn the brightness up). Unfortunately games like Terminator2, which needs realtime tracking, is mostly dark so you it does not work properly. Some people reported success turning up the screen brightness, although this did nothing for me in black areas. (In my experience this also introduced errors, where often the first shot into a new bright area (eg a sprite in a game) would be off). |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: jelwell on February 06, 2006, 03:52:00 pm ---Are there any consumer light guns that track in real-time, other than the LCD TopGun? I know arcade games like Ghost Squad offer real-time tracking. But every gun I've ever seen, available to consumers, can only track when you pull the trigger. --- End quote --- That's a software thing. Any lightgun can "track", it's up to the software to decide whether or not it should. For an example of this, go into the calibration screens of just about any game and usually the crosshair will track the gun for testing purposes. The reason a normal lightgun doesn't track all the time is because it prefers a white screen. --- Quote from: ChodTheWacko on February 06, 2006, 03:54:36 pm ---I didn't mean to imply that the sensor should be touched at all. Let me rephrase my question. The sensor isn't on the outside of the camera, it's inside that hole. --- End quote --- There is no "hole." That thing you see leading to the outside world is a lens. Behind it, it another lens. It's all in that black cylinder (see the picture) There is no adjustment of any kind anywhere. This was a good engineering design to prevent things from messing up. But it's only as good as the QC on the little black cylinder assemblies. My opinion is that mine is a bit goofy based on where I need to place the stands. --- Quote ---Now, my thought is, is the viewing angle 50 degrees because the sensor only has a 50 degree field of view? Or does the sensor natively have a wider viewing area, but it is 50 degrees only because it has 'tunnel vision' since it's inside a hole/tube? (similar to how your field of vision is restricted when you look through a tube). --- End quote --- Knowing that the distance requirement is one of the primary shortcomings of this technology, you can bet the farm that they did everything possible to address that issue. They would not be so dumb as to obstruct the field of view. --- Quote ---You would think that if you angle the LEDs towards the gun, you should be able to stand fairly close to the monitor. --- End quote --- It doesn't work like that. If the cameras were in the LED bars, and the light source on the gun, yes. But not this way. If it's outside the "field-of-view", then it's "invisible." So pointing one way or the other will have no effect. --- Quote from: Santoro on February 06, 2006, 03:55:46 pm ---TX and RX are serial terms from my experience so my bet goes with Universal Serial Bus. This bolstered by the fact that its a USB device ;) --- End quote --- USB doesn't have a reset or 3.3v line. These might go to the camera stuff, but it's hard to say. It's probably proprietary because I doubt the rest of the gun electronics are pretending to be a USB host, and the device enumerates as a single device (I think). I'm pretty sure it's not firewire either for the same reasons. It doesn't look like there's much of anything on that little board. If there is, the entire thing must be encapsulated in that block of plastic behind the lens. --- Quote from: ErikRuud on February 06, 2006, 03:55:14 pm ---How difficult was it to dis-assemle? How hard will it be to re-assemle? --- End quote --- You have to take out 1 screw. The rest is a puzzle. I don't recommend it to novices. --- Quote from: sci on February 06, 2006, 04:18:20 pm ---What the crap, now I cant calibrate my guns at all? whats going on? if I hold a+b, well .. the gnu never goes in calibration mode. WHAT IS THIS!? --- End quote --- I panicked like that twice. The first time was when I plugged it into the PC and then realized the gun wouldn't do anything until I installed drivers. And the second time, I forgot that I turned the laser off. :) Don't know if that helps. RandyT |
| buks:
okay here my 2 pence worth : first of all, I got charged |
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