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mccoy178:
Based on the info provided in this thread, I would say that the major problem happened with SS not verifying final design with customer since it was custom.  I would think that would be a must, even if it takes the customer forever to get back with you.  If you honest to goodness had a set layout that was decided upon, I would demand they fix it because they charged full retail price for the item.  If it was a buddy that did it or someone who did it on the cheap, then I would let it slide, but you paid an arm and a leg for that.  That control panel alone is almost as much as building an entire setup from scratch.

Comp1demon:

--- Quote from: Zakk on March 03, 2006, 05:20:15 pm ---If I'm not mistaken, you posted about how they screwed up, now you're spending a lot of time defending how great they are.  For that much moola you have a right to be mad.  You say they are serious businessmen.
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Don't take my comments at face value.....

BY SERIOUS BUSINESSMEN I MENT, they handle the customer (that don't know much) and talk to them in a mannor that makes the customer feel pressured so to speak. Also I have read how the nit pick delays becuase their order of a scrap part didn't come in... I undserstand overhead is overhead.. but come on... If you need a 4.00 piece of metal or something.. and your order didn't come in that you pay $3.25 a piece.  GO hit Homedepot and buy the part u need to finish the product. Don't delay it becuae that order is due in again in 2 weeks.


--- Quote ---By the looks of it, that flight stick is set to smash your $250 glass.  To me, that is a huge screwup.
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AS FOR THE FLIGHTSTICK.. NOPE IT BARELY MISSES THE GLASS... IF it hit the Glass there would be SERIOUS PROBLEMS. Though it does get in the way of my monitor.  But as a test Jacked the monitor up another 3/4" and it's very playable.

I opened the slikstik up to look inside.. Very nice wiring job..... TOO GOOD>> Know why it's too good????
Becuase there is no room for me to slip in 5 wires to Wire up my coin door to the IPAC...

I tried one Wire and said F&**&K this!!!

I left it alone put the cover back on and That was that...

Maybe someone can help me out here.  I had a WINIPAC (USB) that i had hooked up to my coin door.  When I plugged in the SLIKSTIK my IPAC for the COin DOor was rendered USELESS. anyway to keep the configuration I had and have the 56 Input Ipac in the SLikstik and the USB Ipac (the smaller 2 player one) Coexisit with each other...

Now before youy ask - I know your gonna say how did u get the 4 slot coin door working with a 2 player IPAC

I used coin 1 and Coin 2..
and Start 1 and Start 2
Remapped Start 1 (1) to ( 7 ) which is Coin (3)
Remapped Start 2 (2) to ( 8 ) which is Coin (4)

That Ipac was working fine until I hooked the slikstik up.

Can they peacefully coexist with each other?


--- Quote ---Let them prove it and fix the thing.  Drive it back to them.
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Sure if they want to pay my gas and tolls and let me drop it off between 11pm-5am since any time before that ROUND TRIP for 77 miles over 3 hours with the traffic around here + Have it Ready for me in less than a week! since i waited 2 + months already.

Im not gonna call and ---smurf--- and complain since they never answer the phone anyways..

I left him the same message on HIS FORUM.. He can respond to me there since it is at MY CONVIENCE that i chanck and reply back - not his... which takes forever.

vader:
It's great that you like your panel and all ( for the most part ), but I'm sorry, I don't care what kinds of craftsmanship is put into a control panel, there is no way it is worth that much money unless of course you have a 4 players SW yoke panel in mint condition.  Do yourself a favor, go to BST next time you need a panel and contract someone here to do it.

Tim

DrewKaree:

--- Quote from: Comp1demon on March 03, 2006, 03:08:06 pm ---
well let break it down.....


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A breakdown of the prices doesn't in any way, shape, or form make that price any more astounding.  $700 alone for a CP is still ridiculous.  I do appreciate you for laying out the costs though.  I was thinking after my buddy and I got a pattern sorted out for a midway cocktail, we'd sell 'em for about that price - THE ENTIRE COCKTAIL.  I no longer am hesitant that we're charging a decent price  :P



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Yes this is called BYOAC and i can see how some of you feel that buying a full completed panel is cheating,


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That's what you're missing - ENTIRELY.  NO ONE has said or even implied that you are "cheating" by buying the panel.  NO ONE!  What we are all incredulous at is the exorbitant price you were charged.  Knowing now that it's someone's pet peeve, one thing that LEAPS out at me as a tacky step not to take - even MORE SO now considering the amount of money you paid - is the trackball plate sitting out there crapping up your CPO.  You paid almost $1100 - that's a nickel and dime thing to cheat you out of.

We're not telling you that you CHEATED.  Get that straight.  You just got rooked in our minds.  SERIOUSLY rooked.


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they are master craftsman - though they ignored my layout that i told them i wanted.


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Those two statements don't go together.  Due to what I just pointed out, that "master craftsmen" claim is specious at best.  That CP is a blank that to anyone who's built one isn't hard to do.  Also, "master craftsmen" don't ignore your layout.  Period.  They may be "very good craftsmen", but you're now trying to sell us a bill of goods that doesn't jive with your actions you've taken to run them up and down at every chance you get.  This post is the FOURTH post you've laid down about these "master craftsmen".  Either YOU are unrealistic in your expectations and are impatient beyond compare, or they're NOT who you're now trying to paint them as.  Period.  Nobody spends THIS MUCH EFFORT in trying to let everyone and their mom know how dissatisfied they are with a product from some "master craftsmen".  Oh, one more thing.  You don't "learn to live with" something from a "master craftsman".  A "master craftsman" doesn't send something out with their name on it that someone "learns to live with".


--- Quote from: Comp1demon on March 03, 2006, 10:28:50 pm ---
Don't take my comments at face value.....


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You sound like my wife.  There is nothing we can do BUT take your comments at face value, since that's all the information you've given us.  Much like my wife, I cannot read YOUR mind EITHER, and figure out what you mean that's not being said with the words you are using.

Using your words, your concept of what a "serious businessman" is sounds like a used car salesman.  You're now complaining about setup issues and misconfigured panels yet you state that "they make you feel pressured, so to speak".  Maybe "so to speak" is some wife-speak for "kind and gentle and made me feel totally relaxed and removed that "not so fresh feeling" I had", but that line right there is EXACTLY the reason you got what you did.


The bottom line is that YOU think you paid a fair price for everything for your cab thus far.  We can talk about this until we're blue in the face (but I suspect we won't, unless you try further to justify your purchase to us) and we won't convince you that you lost money hand over fist.  Enjoy your cab. 

Comp1demon:
Dam Drew... I feel like i just got F#%&*#$ED iN THE BUTT.....

I THINK THAT SS do a great job... Even before i bought one, the quality I saw is amazing.

Yes they are Businessmen.... and yes people that sell a nitch product can make anyone feel out of place or PRESSURED so to speak when buying it.

There was on person somewhere that Said THIS IS BYOAC FORUMS - implining i didn;t build my CP.  I honestly don't care... I Built the other 95% of the cabinet.... I built the pc, did the speakers, Ect...

PS: EVERYONE - IGNORE MY IPAQ QUESTION I GOT IT WORKING 100% with 2 IPAQ's USB.

Do I feel rooked???? Sort of.. I pretty much got everything I paid for. - minus a few buttons due to the layout. 

Let me ask you this.. If you order a Custom Harley and they put the Exhuast on the wrong side... After waiting 10 weeks for it.  DO you Ride it and learn to live with it or do you send it back.  It's a tough choice.  If its the middle of winter and you cannot ride it.. sure send it back and let em fix it.  But if you bike arrives in time to go riding with the boys...  do you send it back and continue to feel left out?  well that a rough one.

I have Posted on SS public forum.. where christian WILL EVENTUALLY answer my questions... and shared the fact that my LAYOUT WAS WRONG and that's not what I paid for.  I even have a nice Mock up of what i convayed to them on the phone and what I emailed Jerry M, at slikstik before i ordered it, and even refenced the email to him when on the phone.

They have my Phone number....They can call me.. Or they can answer my post on their site and tell me to call them.. but if Christian post's that its gonna take more than 7 days to fix my problem and or I have to front SHipping back to them Or drive it there and not get re-embursed.. Well Im gonna have to do some serious thinking.

As for building my own panel - I will eventually.  I think I might want to build a 2 player panel  to swap out with my quad every so often.... Just for the experience.

As for the Trackball plate in the open... I asked about that I wanted it flush and they told me NO CAN DO... I saw that in every picture of every slikstik with a CP overlay or Not that Plate is in the open.  I knew full well that was gonna be like that... I don't mind. 

Ok - I guess your right about taking me at face value.. it's hard to read sarcasm sometimes.  I was being sarcastic about the Serious businessmen thing... No biggie.. either way they are serious bunch of fellows over there.

Learing to live with something from a "MASTER CRAFTSMAN" well your right again.. you don't learn to live with.  But after the headache this project has been .. I don;t wanna drive any where else, and I don;t want to wait any more.. I think I have been patient long enough.

You are right also that I RUN THEM UP AND DOWN... ok here is the way I feel here

They are good.
Its a great product..

But..
They take too long.
FOR ME: it didn't come out right

Im just laying out the facts.. I'm not saying SS SUCKS SO DON'T BUY FROM THEM.. If I said that.. I have no chance of getting any help at all with my product incase I need help.

But I do run them down for the shortcomming of my experience.... Hopefully it will help influence another buyer in which way he/she swings when thinking about going with SS.

Damm if i knew someone here could have built me what i wanted for less cash and done a better job and got it right the first time, I would have gone that route... But i didn't know there were people here who did that.. I just though it was people doing their own projects and small side jobs.

Anyways .. I got everything working right so far..

Still cannot figure out why the Flightstick is mapped to Player 2 not player 1. -I'll wait for Christian to answer that.

Lastly, Im not tring to ASTOUND anyone with prices.... I have sold alot of stuff to afford this project.. It's not like I have cash out my booty.  Im getting married, my wife to be hates that it cost so much.. I get flack from the parent about saving not spending.. But no one (FAMILY WISE)  understands that I didn't drop a dime of my Paychecks on this project.  I sold my Laptop, all my Xbox's (except 2), my Glass gamecube (Panasonic Q), and a ---Cleveland steamer--- load of software old SNES game (FF2 and 3, chrono trigger).  I sold a healthy portion of my Old Carts and PsX games and such. I had a nice collection - still do , but its about $2000 depleted in terms of classic and rare games. Not to mention no more laptop - but hey I only used that laptop 4 weeks a year anyways.  Also shows the people here, sometime you have to sacrifice to get intot he GAME.. LOL

Ok ill be back later gonna go play MAME

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