Author Topic: New Product: Opti-Wiz (Read 26782 times)

RandyT · « **on:** December 30, 2005, 11:10:28 pm »

Available Now/b]:

High-Performance 3-Axis, 3-button Mouse Emulation.

USB and PS/2 compatible. Will be available with either connector, but is compatible with both using an adapter.

Connections for 3 buttons, 3 axes, +5v and Ground.

With the addition of a resistor and 2 opto-interrupters, can be used as a full optical board for home-made controls with X, Y or Z Axis selectability.

Small Footprint

USB or PS/2 cable included.

$16.95 as shown or $14.95 without headers.

*edit*

Device compatibility testers have been selected. No more emails please.

Thanks! (and Happy New Year )

RandyT

markrvp · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2005, 11:26:37 pm »

PM Sent

pointdablame · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2005, 01:21:27 am »

Very very cool

I only have one trackball around right now, but this could come in handy once for me once they are officially available.

Great work Randy... any chance you have some more surprises in store for us

Kremmit · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2005, 02:03:40 am »

PM also sent.

NoOne=NBA= · « **Reply #4 on:** December 31, 2005, 03:29:19 am »

Too dang busy to test one at the moment, but I'm interested in buying one, when they become "officially" available.
Sounds like the perfect candidate for the 3-P driving cab I have planned, and may actually get to build....someday.

RobotronNut · « **Reply #5 on:** December 31, 2005, 06:14:47 am »

Quote from: pointdablame on December 31, 2005, 01:21:27 am

Great work Randy... any chance you have some more surprises in store for us

Like a small-footprint up/down spinner for Discs of Tron??? $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

Jabba · « **Reply #6 on:** December 31, 2005, 09:48:45 am »

Quote from: RobotronNut on December 31, 2005, 06:14:47 am

Quote from: pointdablame on December 31, 2005, 01:21:27 am
Great work Randy... any chance you have some more surprises in store for us

RandyT · « **Reply #7 on:** December 31, 2005, 10:10:24 am »

Quote from: RobotronNut on December 31, 2005, 06:14:47 am

Quote from: pointdablame on December 31, 2005, 01:21:27 am
Great work Randy... any chance you have some more surprises in store for us

Like a small-footprint up/down spinner for Discs of Tron??? $:-\$ $:-\$ $:-\$

It's going to be a while before I can look at something like that. I have a few thoughts about how to approach the construction of one though.

Those with a trained eye will notice that this is also an optics board. Just missing a couple of components

Quote from: Jabba on December 31, 2005, 09:48:45 am

Maybe an Mini-Wiz (all in one)? BTW: I sent you a PM and also forgot to mention I have a spinner as well...

Those who know me, know my opinions on "one chip" solutions as they relate to optical controls. Speed is especially important with these types of devices and I believe they deserve their own interface. So it's unlikely you will see an "all-in-one" from me, unless it has two processors/ports on it.

Thanks for all of the offers from potential testers. I've decided to send out two of them and the recipients have been selected. Markrvp and Kremmit will be helping me out with this one.

RandyT

Jabba · « **Reply #8 on:** December 31, 2005, 11:40:23 am »

Quote from: RandyT on December 31, 2005, 10:10:24 am

Those who know me,

whammoed · « **Reply #9 on:** December 31, 2005, 11:50:51 am »

Awesome. For those of us with more than one trackball: Will you be able to ship these with different names like you do the GP-Wiz so they stay in the correct order after each reboot?

RandyT · « **Reply #10 on:** December 31, 2005, 12:19:00 pm »

Quote from: whammoed on December 31, 2005, 11:50:51 am

Awesome. For those of us with more than one trackball: Will you be able to ship these with different names like you do the GP-Wiz so they stay in the correct order after each reboot?

Yep....

RandyT

PoDunkMoFo · « **Reply #11 on:** January 01, 2006, 04:31:06 am »

Does mame support 3 axis... err axi um.... axissis per mouse?

Would you need analog mame to make this work?

I am definitely interested in ordering one of these.

Damn you ,quicker than me beta, tester requesters!!!!!

Fozzy The Bear · « **Reply #12 on:** January 01, 2006, 07:45:43 am »

Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on January 01, 2006, 04:31:06 am

Does mame support 3 axis... err axi um.... axissis per mouse?

Would you need analog mame to make this work?

Mame supports whatever devices are recognised as controlers in windows... So effectively you could use this to power a trackball and a spinner, and no you don't need any special version of mame. You Just have to tell it what controls you're using.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

KonkeyKong · « **Reply #13 on:** January 01, 2006, 03:34:18 pm »

could this be used to build a Star Wars yoke perhaps?

Kremmit · « **Reply #14 on:** January 01, 2006, 06:20:13 pm »

Quote from: KonkeyKong on January 01, 2006, 03:34:18 pm

could this be used to build a Star Wars yoke perhaps?

Real Star Wars yokes use potentiometers, not optics. Somebody did build a homebrew Star Wars yoke based on optics several years ago. I can't find a link for it (anyone?), but I believe the trouble was that it would lose calibration after a bit of play time. I think he eventually ditched the optics and put pots on there instead.

Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on January 01, 2006, 04:31:06 am

Does mame support 3 axis... err axi um.... axissis per mouse?

Would you need analog mame to make this work?

The mouse Z-Axis works in MAME as of 0.94u3. I believe U_Rebel had it in Analog+ a while before that.

Randy- Looking forward to it!

SirPoonga · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2006, 12:22:57 am »

Are you going to have a cable that can jsut plug into a trackball? I believe the 6 pins of a tball are standardized. If not I know wico and happ are the same as they are meant to be able to replace each other. competition and all.

pointdablame · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2006, 12:25:48 am »

Quote from: SirPoonga on January 03, 2006, 12:22:57 am

Are you going to have a cable that can jsut plug into a trackball? I believe the 6 pins of a tball are standardized. If not I know wico and happ are the same as they are meant to be able to replace each other. competition and all.

that would be great. If you could make a cable to just plug right into a Happ trackball, you'd sell them like crazy. I'd certainly buy one.

rdagger · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2006, 12:45:32 am »

Quote from: Fozzy The Bear on January 01, 2006, 07:45:43 am

Mame supports whatever devices are recognised as controlers in windows... So effectively you could use this to power a trackball and a spinner, and no you don't need any special version of mame. You Just have to tell it what controls you're using.

Best Regards,
Julian (Fozzy The Bear)

Most mice are now 3 axes (X, Y and the scroll wheel is Z).
I recently tried to get MAME to recognize my mouse's scroll wheel and I could not get it to work.

Kremmit · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2006, 01:21:13 am »

U_Rebel claims the MAMEdevs added his z-axis code in this post here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=33453.msg290575#msg290575

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2006, 06:36:26 am »

Quote from: Kremmit on January 01, 2006, 06:20:13 pm

Real Star Wars yokes use potentiometers, not optics.

daywane · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:02:15 am »

3 axis?
mouse = x and z
x = (east and west)
z= (north and south)
y= up and down?
like a button?
I am confused

I work with mill lathes at work
x - will make the part smaller in diam.
x+ larger in diam
z- shorter in length
z+ longer in length
I have no Y ( I assume "Y" is up and down)
I just do not get it. I must be over thinking this

SirPoonga · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:13:34 am »

Z is used for the scroll wheel.

RandyT · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:24:45 am »

Quote from: Tiger-Heli on January 03, 2006, 06:36:26 am

Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on January 01, 2006, 04:31:06 am
Would you need analog mame to make this work?
You will need either XP or Analog Mame to enable two mice controlling separate players, otherwise, no standard MAME will work. (Two-player CABAL, Marble Madness, etc. needs Analog Plus or XP).

But not if you are using the axes individually for each controller (say 1 trackball and 1 spinner) or ?

RandyT

markrvp · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:25:23 am »

Quote from: daywane on January 03, 2006, 10:02:15 am

3 axis?
mouse = x and z
x =

Havok · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:49:42 am »

Quote from: RandyT on January 03, 2006, 10:24:45 am

Quote from: Tiger-Heli on January 03, 2006, 06:36:26 am
Quote from: PoDunkMoFo on January 01, 2006, 04:31:06 am
Would you need analog mame to make this work?
You will need either XP or Analog Mame to enable two mice controlling separate players, otherwise, no standard MAME will work.

RandyT · « **Reply #25 on:** January 03, 2006, 10:55:33 am »

Quote from: Havok on January 03, 2006, 10:49:42 am

So, just to confirm: I could use just this one inexpensive controller for both a spinner (X), AND a trackball (Y + Z), PLUS 3 mouse buttons (left, center, right)?

Probably more like X and Y for the Trackball and Z for the spinner. But I'll wait until I hear from the testers on that one.

RandyT

RetroACTIVE · « **Reply #26 on:** January 03, 2006, 11:01:46 am »

Quote

Probably more like X and Y for the Trackball and Z for the spinner. But I'll wait until I hear from the testers on that one.

Man am I psyched.. I love your product line... you offer the most scalable solutions to date...

I'm ripping out my USB trackball interface, I bought 3 optical boards from Happ and will be getting your optiwiz when it is available to handle the trackball and spinner... I just got your 49 way controller, I am planning on the ledwiz and any other "led" related products when they become available.

thanks for doing this... I hope it is all very successfull for you

Jim

19rjs99 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 03, 2006, 11:16:17 am »

Looking forward to your release... Great job Randy.

daywane · « **Reply #28 on:** January 03, 2006, 12:21:24 pm »

I am happy with my first order from you just before Xmas and recieved Xmas eve,
I will probably order one.

I have a opti pac ( not hooked up yet) but still would like to try them out side by side.

whammoed · « **Reply #29 on:** January 03, 2006, 03:57:10 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on December 31, 2005, 12:19:00 pm

Quote from: whammoed on December 31, 2005, 11:50:51 am
Awesome.

RayB · « **Reply #30 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:33:50 pm »

I have to ask, why are there two large LEDs in your advertisement?

RandyT · « **Reply #31 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:57:48 pm »

Quote from: RayB on January 03, 2006, 05:33:50 pm

I have to ask, why are there two large LEDs in your advertisement?

Cuz they's purdy!

Besides, what do you think makes a spinner or trackball "optical" ?

RandyT

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #32 on:** January 04, 2006, 08:12:22 am »

Quote from: RandyT on January 03, 2006, 05:57:48 pm

Quote from: RayB on January 03, 2006, 05:33:50 pm
I have to ask, why are there two large LEDs in your advertisement?

Cuz they's purdy!
Besides, what do you think makes a spinner or trackball "optical" ?

RandyT

Perhaps also to tie into the LED-WIZ and the fact that LED's are also going to be available from GGG soon (if not already).

Great job on that project also, btw, RandyT!!!!

Havok · « **Reply #33 on:** January 04, 2006, 08:53:25 am »

Randy - it looks like you have left room on the board to mount the 2 opto-interrupters and perhaps the resistor, so this could be mounted to the spinner directly. Is this what is planned as an option?

If so, that would work great for how I would like to use this product. Plus, I would like to add to the requests that you produce a spinner!

Thanks, and keep up the good work...

wakerlet · « **Reply #34 on:** January 04, 2006, 10:25:04 am »

Quote from: RandyT on December 31, 2005, 10:10:24 am

Thanks for all of the offers from potential testers.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #35 on:** January 04, 2006, 10:56:15 am »

Looks amazing! SUPER GLAD to see a product in the price range!

Oh Oh.... hot swap optic boards? doable??

As for the optics... I don't know what your plan is, but wouldn't it be easier not to add optics directly on the board? Since there are two (assuming where the optics go... bottom left? ) but that wouldn't be all that useful. One might be (so you can just move it up next to an spinner and mount the whole thing there... or maybe a super small optic board that can be used in place of many others (so just the bare minimum optics super small easy to put on any board).

Anyway, let us know what the plan is.

btw, will these work with Oscars optic boards? (and Kelsey, doe you still have them around if they do work?)

RandyT · « **Reply #36 on:** January 04, 2006, 02:06:30 pm »

Quote from: SirPoonga on January 03, 2006, 12:22:57 am

Are you going to have a cable that can jsut plug into a trackball? I believe the 6 pins of a tball are standardized. If not I know wico and happ are the same as they are meant to be able to replace each other. competition and all.

The crimp tool, female 6-pin housings and terminals are on the way. I have an old WICO here, but haven't bugged out the pins yet. Anyone have pinouts for this connector for the HAPP so I can compare?

Quote from: Havok on January 04, 2006, 08:53:25 am

...If so, that would work great for how I would like to use this product. Plus, I would like to add to the requests that you produce a spinner!

Way ahead of you

Quote from: Lilwolf on January 04, 2006, 10:56:15 am

Oh Oh.... hot swap optic boards? doable??

Hmmm...should be doable. What did you have in mind?

Quote

As for the optics... I don't know what your plan is, but wouldn't it be easier not to add optics directly on the board? Since there are two (assuming where the optics go... bottom left? ) but that wouldn't be all that useful. One might be (so you can just move it up next to an spinner and mount the whole thing there... or maybe a super small optic board that can be used in place of many others (so just the bare minimum optics super small easy to put on any board).

You have to have 2 opto-switches. Just one will tell you something moved, but not give a direction. The boards where you see just one black component have 2 LEDs and 2 photo-transistors built into it, unless it is just a limit switch or counter for something.

RandyT

markrvp · « **Reply #37 on:** January 04, 2006, 02:29:39 pm »

Here is the pinout from Oscar's site.

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #38 on:** January 04, 2006, 02:32:08 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on January 04, 2006, 02:06:30 pm

I have an old WICO here, but haven't bugged out the pins yet.

SirPoonga · « **Reply #39 on:** January 04, 2006, 04:53:14 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on January 04, 2006, 02:06:30 pm

Quote from: SirPoonga on January 03, 2006, 12:22:57 am
Are you going to have a cable that can jsut plug into a trackball? I believe the 6 pins of a tball are standardized. If not I know wico and happ are the same as they are meant to be able to replace each other. competition and all.

The crimp tool, female 6-pin housings and terminals are on the way. I have an old WICO here, but haven't bugged out the pins yet. Anyone have pinouts for this connector for the HAPP so I can compare?

It should be the same as I used the same cable when I switched from wico to happ. But I can verify what pin is what when I get home.


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