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| brophog:
--- Quote ---"Williams Arcade Classics", "Nameco Museum" and the plethora of other vintage arcade game releases contain MAME code? I'd bet every single one of them does. --- End quote --- Why would they? They've been making remakes of those games for consoles and PC's long before MAME was ever thought of. |
| markrvp:
--- Quote from: dax on December 29, 2005, 12:53:11 pm ---For example, you can't download MAME32 without signing up for some annoying pay-for-download site -- someone there is most definitely making money off MAME. --- End quote --- |
| Roughy:
JohnIV should get into touch with me; might be able to work something out a little different since I host... |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: dax on December 29, 2005, 12:53:11 pm ---I think it's sad that you've made the program unavailable. I see nothing wrong with it. It's just like Bittorrrent or Napster; you can use it for good or you can use it for evil. If people violate the licensing terms, they deserve to get censured, but not when there are legit uses for such products. --- End quote --- You see, bit torrent is different. There are tons of legit uses. Companies and the government are using bit torrent for legit reasons. This program has no legit use outside of what a home user will use it for. Also, it really isn't needed. Like I said earlier, you can just add a credit when you select a new game. --- Quote ---Has anybody checked to see if commercial software like "Williams Arcade Classics", "Nameco Museum" and the plethora of other vintage arcade game releases contain MAME code? I'd bet every single one of them does. And if so, who would be designated to take action and what kind of action could be taken? --- End quote --- They are either remakes or use their own emulation. Why is it whenever people see an arcade game on a pc they think there MUST be mame code with it? Does it ever occur to people that mame isn't the only arcade emulator and since it is a commercial product the company didn't hire someone to make an emulator? Here's a good example. http://www.microsoft.com/games/arcade/ This came out before atari was even in mame. I have it on floppy somewhere. I was curious once if it had mame code. I read the read me and it does mention emulation, but obviously it couldn't be mame. Even when the 1999 Hasboro Atari collection hit the market mame was just adding Atari stuff (and not even .36 final yet). |
| dax:
--- Quote from: markrvp on December 29, 2005, 02:11:52 pm --- --- Quote from: dax on December 29, 2005, 12:53:11 pm ---For example, you can't download MAME32 without signing up for some annoying pay-for-download site -- someone there is most definitely making money off MAME. What's the deal with that? The first thing that needs to change is that guy has to dump the commercial scheme he has in place where he's profiting from MAME32. And if he isn't, then filedepot or whoever they are definitely. But it's unquestionably a commercial endeavor that is exploiting MAME to make money. Am I the only one who doesn't like it? --- End quote --- You are incorrect. You have to pay for the ZERO WAIT TIME downloads. If you have enough patience to wait a minute or so you get to download it for free. JohnIV uses that site because they will host the download files for free, i.e. he doesn't have to pay for hosting. Since he isn't making any money off of Mame32, how can you be so arrogant as to demand that he pay for his own domain/server so that you can more conveniently download a free product? --- End quote --- There are alternatives to getting in bed with a corporation that charges for download bandwidth. If you don't know that, then you haven't been around much. It's a marketing scheme to make money for somebody using the MAME files. There are a hundred sites that would host the files for FREE without engaging the user in some sort of commercial solicitation. That is a COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR. Period. That this guy needs to team up with a commercial operator trying to solicit subscriptions is just lame. That's totally not necessary. He's either making money, or he has a deal with those guys to help their business using the software, or he's naive and hasn't spent ten minutes looking around for other places that would freely host the files without the annoyware. You can rationalize however you want, but that hosting company is profiting off MAME. End of story. They are requiring every single person who downloads the software to "sign up". This mailing list is worth money, and of course they try to convince the people to upgrade to the pay services. That's called a commercial operation, and MAME draws people to that site. You can argue about it, like you can argue that charging someone $25 for a copy of the ROMs on DVD is not actually charging for the ROMs per se, and merely the costs involved, but we both know the ROMs are the value which drives the transaction, and if someone operates this as a way to make money, it's a commercial operation, plain and simple. That's the way it is. I'm sorry the guy is a friend of yours, but if you all are going to be high and mighty about not exploiting MAME for comercial purposes, don't be hypocritical and look the other way half the time. |
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