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a good read. in my mind clears up past rhetoric...
Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: KevSteele on December 10, 2005, 11:18:12 am ---The author of the article, Kevin Williams, is friends with David Foley, so there is probably at least a small bit of bias in the article.
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Kevin Williams owns "The Stinger Report" and used to work for INSKOR Entertainment, Infogrames, etc. Now he has his own business(es?). I've got into it with him before. I quoted him as part of a discussion with him and he gave me the "that's not what I said". Then turned around two seconds later and said "That's copyrighted by me and you have to remove the quote". I told him either he said it or he didn't. He dropped the subject, but he's far from a good source for information on this topic. It's really too bad that people like him and Foley are even given a place to "legitimize" these claims that have zero research behind them.
His take on the MAME thing is exactly like Foley's. That's why there's no real information in that article. He doesn't reference the federal statutes broken by Foley by filing a trademark application under false pretense, he doesn't show any laws that have been broken by the MAMEdevs, he doesn't do anything but spin the whole topic. The article couldn't have been more biased if Foley wrote it himself. There's zero information or fact in it.
FWIW: UltraCade = Arcade Legends = Ultimate Arcade = Chicago Gaming = Hyperware = ?? Like I said before... just changing the sign outside.
Doug Duba used to run Chicago Gaming, which was an offshoot of a cabinet company called Churchill Cabinets something or another. They make the cabinets for Foley. AFAIK, Foley has jumped on this now and *may* be in deep with Cabinet building.
IMHO, that article should be pulled. Kevin, if you want an article that has facts & documents, let me know. It's about time somebody wrote an article about it that shows in Black & White what happened.
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iroms has no future. There are too many better and easier ways to do it. 5 years ago, maybe. Now? No way.
KevSteele:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on December 10, 2005, 01:48:50 pm ---[IMHO, that article should be pulled.
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Crowquill:
Wow--propaganda! Everything in this is either untrue or a fraction of the truth. This one really struck me:
"The MAME Development team originally created the emulator to allow owners of broken arcade cabinets to run their machines again, and compile list of salvaged ROM code."
Apparently everything in these guys' world revolves around how to make money off of cabinets using emulation. He has no concept that people are curious how the hardware works and investigate that through emulation. Once again, the altruistic Mr. Foley was just looking out for everyone, he has no stake in making money off of MAME. He wasn't claiming something he didn't create to further his business.
Napster was a file distribution system. MAME is an emulator. Of course MAME is just as guilty in giving users illegal ROMs. Isn't that a logical conclusion to everyone else?
I seriously think ultracade is still a good idea. While "Ms Pac-Man vs. Galga" are strong enough to make money on their own, it's good to see a bunch of great games that can't combined into one cabinet. It's a shame it's run by a @!#?@!
As far as the console games go, I think Capcom finally has the right idea--release a good quantity of games onto one collection. It's on my christmas list.
Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: KevSteele on December 10, 2005, 02:45:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on December 10, 2005, 01:48:50 pm ---[IMHO, that article should be pulled. Kevin, if you want an article that has facts & documents, let me know. It's about time somebody wrote an article about it that shows in Black & White what happened.
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The article is presented as an "editorial" from Kevin Williams and the Stinger Report, and as such expresses his opinions. I'd be more than happy - thrilled, even - to see a comprehensive article covering this situation and all that occurred.
Heck, I'm paying for articles, so you can even earn something while you're at it. ;)
Kevin
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Cool. I'll work on it over the next couple days. I want to make sure everything is well documented, so I'll take my time (and make sure I'm not biased either... otherwise it's a waste of time).
KevSteele:
Sounds great - I look forward to seeing it and putting it up on RetroBlast!