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Building a woodshop....recommended tools
nostrebor:
To me the real advantage to owning a planer is being able to use rough sawn material. I paid for mine in the first 3 projects with savings from buying RS lumber rather than s2s or s4s. I do use my jointer for trueing faces, ans squaring one corner, but I could get along without it If I had to. I would not give up my planer, unless it was to trade for a bigger one ;)
Matt Berry:
Chadtower
Using power tools or hand tools without the proper knowledge, training or techniques is a date for disaster. From the sound of your post you haven't even taken a shop course in high school.
These tools are Dangerous. They will cause amputations and other severe injuries if not used properly. This is very serious. I would highly recommend you seek out some sort of class either formal or informal some where. It will cost you a lot less in time and money to do this then suffer through a terrible accident with a tool.
Avery
I will agree that a jointer isn't "needed". I would say if you buy nothing but rough lumber all of the time, as I do, especially in large quanties you'll be glad you have one. It is definetley nicer then wrestling with a sled and planer all the time.
Nostrebor
I wouldn't recommend a complete neanderthal shop to anyone, those chisels are too dangerous :) Seriously though, I think there should be a happy median, a combination of handtools and power tools. I couldn't even imagine trying to rip a board with a handsaw, but dovetails should be done by hand (they really are not hard to do) Scrapers are a wonderful replacement to sandpaper and give an aewsome finish to the wood. They are not really that hard to use or maintain and you don't have to worry about all the dust.
It is kind of funny about always wanting bigger tools. I have a 15" planer and there are a few times I wished it was a 20", especially with the 17" wide planks of white oak I have.
big daddy:
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anyone know of a good site with tutorials for the beginner? I need to start at a place like "this is wood. This is how you cut wood. This is how you cut wood at a 45 degree angle. Don't cut your arms."
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Not a site, but I can recommend a book. "Woodworking. The complete step-by-step guid to skills:techniques:more than 40 projects"
ISBN 0-7607-6013-6
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ISBN=0760760136&pdf=y
It walks you through the different types of wood, the different tools and what they do, how to do different types of joins, etc. In addition it has 40 or so projects with detailed instructions and walkthrus on how to build them. It's heavily illustrated as the review says.
As a beginner who has finished his cab and now has interest in other projects, I've found it great.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Matt Berry on December 14, 2005, 12:34:11 pm ---Chadtower
Using power tools or hand tools without the proper knowledge, training or techniques is a date for disaster. From the sound of your post you haven't even taken a shop course in high school.
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That's pretty much why I only have the circular saw and zipsaw... the minimum tools I needed to get specific jobs done that I was able to do at the time.
nostrebor:
--- Quote from: Matt Berry on December 14, 2005, 12:34:11 pm ---Nostrebor
I wouldn't recommend a complete neanderthal shop to anyone, those chisels are too dangerous :) Seriously though, I think there should be a happy median, a combination of handtools and power tools. I couldn't even imagine trying to rip a board with a handsaw, but dovetails should be done by hand (they really are not hard to do) Scrapers are a wonderful replacement to sandpaper and give an aewsome finish to the wood. They are not really that hard to use or maintain and you don't have to worry about all the dust.
It is kind of funny about always wanting bigger tools. I have a 15" planer and there are a few times I wished it was a 20", especially with the 17" wide planks of white oak I have.
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I just don't have time to go neander, but I do get a big kick out of the projects that show up on sawmillcreek in the neanderthal forum. Some of those guys are just ate up!
I use a nice mix of handtools and power tools, with a strong preference to power ;). As you mentioned, my new favorite is scrapers. If you have allergies, you will love these for avoiding sanding dust. Plus, if they are sharpened right, the ribbons of wood are thin enough to read through :)
What I really need for my shop is better dust collection. MDF has exacerbated the issue to the point that I have stopped using it for anything until I get moved into a new place, and have DC plumbing in operation. My absolute favorite is routering the stuff >:(
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