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ChadTower:


To most people now, any game in which you are not violently killing things or blowing things up excessively, is a kiddie game.

tetsujin:


--- Quote from: darthbane2k on October 31, 2005, 11:09:08 am ---
--- Quote from: rchadd on October 28, 2005, 06:56:15 am ---
hope all the games are not "kiddy" orientated though

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And this is exactly the kind of comment I simply cannot make any sense of (it comes mainly from Playstation fanboys)
What exactly is kiddy?

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When too many games are wholly cutesy and completely lacking the boldness to be even vaguely offensive...  there's nothing wrong with a game like that, but I don't want all my games to be like that, or even most of them.  I enjoy fanciful, stylish games like Windwaker and I enjoy relatively simple, accessible games with good gameplay mechanics (like Bomberman, and the various Mario games like Mario Kart and Mario Baseball, which have little to do with Super Mario Bros. but which use the familiar characters to give flavor to an otherwise simple but worthy game) these kinds of games are often lighthearted and accessible and very playable, and therefore also very good for multiplayer.  But I also enjoy other kinds of games, and I feel those other kinds of games are under-represented on the Cube.  I do enjoy fantasy that's presented with a realistic edge.  It's still unrealistic fantasy but the pretense of realism makes it a fantasy I can embrace.  And while I don't feel a great need to play GTA or BMX XXX, personally, as an adult I do want my games to exhibit some adult themes, too.  (Though, at the same time, incorporation of sexual themes into a game rarely comes off well...)  For all my games to be perpetually locked into some degree of kid-friendly limitations, that would feel stifled.  I want games that can reach as far as my experience and beyond into my imagination.

Of course there are such games on the Cube (Resident Evil or the Star Wars games, for instance), or even of Nintendo's titles on the Cube, (Metroid, or the upcoming Zelda, for instance) but I can relate to the people who look at the Cube's software lineup and see mostly Mario games rendered in kid-friendly Disney style.

Nintendo makes good games which are often imitated: they've proven that they know how to make a good game-playing experience.  That, and their attempts to create new kinds of playing experiences (through the novel controls of the DS and Revolution) have earned me their business - I will own a DS and I will own a Rev.  But I'm currently a PS2 owner, and most of my favorite games never made it to the Cube.  That concerns me a little, with regard to the Revolution, but it's a chance I'll take.

darthbane2k:


--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 31, 2005, 11:45:12 am ---
To most people now, any game in which you are not violently killing things or blowing things up excessively, is a kiddie game.

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exactly.
To be honest, a lot of the content on the various Playstation format disturbs me. I have a 2 year old toddler who loves games, he doesnt play them properly but loves them just the same. Im comfortable with him playing gamecube, but ps2, no way - a lot of the content in many ps2 games is bordering lewd (Look at the GTA'hidden' features).

Nintendo make games for the family, they dont single out certain age groups. As I said before, most people who are fans of Playstations 'adult' themed games are actually kids with something to prove. I, as an adult, have NOTHING to prove, so I feel no less of a man when Im playing super mario sunshine or even wonderboy on mame.

The sony generation have stripped a lot of innocence from gaming. Most games these days which are popular are no more than interactive R-Rated FMV sequences.
Look what the 'sony influence' did to Final Fantasy for example, is there a need for so much swearing and bad language in these games now?...

Dont get me wrong though, Im not into censorship...

tetsujin:


--- Quote from: darthbane2k on October 31, 2005, 01:22:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 31, 2005, 11:45:12 am ---
To most people now, any game in which you are not violently killing things or blowing things up excessively, is a kiddie game.

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exactly.
To be honest, a lot of the content on the various Playstation format disturbs me. I have a 2 year old toddler who loves games, he doesnt play them properly but loves them just the same. I'm comfortable with him playing gamecube, but ps2, no way - a lot of the content in many ps2 games is bordering lewd (Look at the GTA'hidden' features).

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Do you feel the same about TV?  Your DVD player?

I imagine not, but I'm also going to go out on a limb here and say you wouldn't buy R-rated videos for your toddler, or let him watch Cinemax late at night...  More likely you buy him sove kids' videos or let him watch certain shows.  Am I right?

So why is a game system any different?  You have the choice of buying the kid whatever games you think are appropriate for him.  PS2 has "E"-rated games, and Gamecube has a few "M"-rated titles.  I don't suppose you'd buy your kid Resident Evil for Gamecube, eh?

And if you're referring to "Hot Coffee", yes, it's very well-hidden.  You cannot access it through gameplay, you can only do so by circumventing the game to access the media directly.  But if you're talking about GTA, and a two-year old, forget it.  The stuff that's not-hidden is rated "M" to begin with.  It's a playground for adults who have enough sense and experience to draw a line between fantasy and reality, and not cross it.

darthbane2k:


--- Quote from: tetsujin on October 31, 2005, 01:33:37 pm ---
--- Quote from: darthbane2k on October 31, 2005, 01:22:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: ChadTower on October 31, 2005, 11:45:12 am ---
To most people now, any game in which you are not violently killing things or blowing things up excessively, is a kiddie game.

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exactly.
To be honest, a lot of the content on the various Playstation format disturbs me. I have a 2 year old toddler who loves games, he doesnt play them properly but loves them just the same. I'm comfortable with him playing gamecube, but ps2, no way - a lot of the content in many ps2 games is bordering lewd (Look at the GTA'hidden' features).

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Do you feel the same about TV?
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