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| Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on October 26, 2005, 01:35:44 pm --- --- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 26, 2005, 01:04:37 pm ---Well I've never had much time for religion and many wars are indeed fought in the name of religion. But I have to say if you're talking about Northern Ireland then that conflict has very little to do with religion. Catholic and Protestant are just labels used to describe the two communities. The conflict is mainly about politics and historical grievances. --- End quote --- I am labeled a Catholic. I was under the impression that being labeled a Catholic had everything to do with my religion. Do you have a link to an unbiased website that says being Catholic or being Protestant has very little to do with religion? --- End quote --- You're missing my point. The IRA is fighting its campaign to try and achieve a united Ireland, and to promote the interests of Northern Ireland's nationalist community who just happen to be mainly catholic. They are not fighting in the name of Catholicism. The same applies to the Loyalists groups. They're fighting to keep northern Ireland as part of the UK not to promote protestant christianity per se. |
| mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on October 26, 2005, 01:35:44 pm ---Do you have a link to an unbiased website that says being Catholic or being Protestant has very little to do with religion? --- End quote --- How about the IRA's original mission statement (via Wikipedia): "Since its emergence in 1969, its stated aim has been the reunification of Ireland which it believed could not be achieved without an armed campaign directed against British rule in Northern Ireland." mrC |
| mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 26, 2005, 02:05:38 pm ---You're missing my point. The IRA is fighting its campaign to try and achieve a united Ireland... --- End quote --- Correction, *was* fighting... # 28 July 2005: The IRA release a statement that it is ending its armed campaign and will verifiably put its arms beyond use. # 25 September 2005: International weapons inspectors supervise the full disarmament of the IRA. If this was a conflict based on religious differences, they'd still be fighting, rather than having moved into the diplomatic arena. mrC |
| shmokes:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on October 26, 2005, 01:35:44 pm --- --- Quote from: Grasshopper on October 26, 2005, 01:04:37 pm ---Well I've never had much time for religion and many wars are indeed fought in the name of religion. But I have to say if you're talking about Northern Ireland then that conflict has very little to do with religion. Catholic and Protestant are just labels used to describe the two communities. The conflict is mainly about politics and historical grievances. --- End quote --- I am labeled a Catholic. I was under the impression that being labeled a Catholic had everything to do with my religion. Do you have a link to an unbiased website that says being Catholic or being Protestant has very little to do with religion? --- End quote --- Why even dignify him with a polite response. Grasshopper's exact words were the "conflict has very little to do with religion." Last I checked neither "catholic" nor "protestant" was synonomous with "conflict". Well...actually I've technically never checked, per se..... |
| mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: shmokes on October 26, 2005, 05:54:11 pm ---Why even dignify him with a polite response. --- End quote --- Usually, I don't. But it took all of 3 seconds on Google to show him how dense his comment was. I seriously think he really has his own internet that is completely devoid of information, and instead is only filled with dancing animated .gifs, that keep him entertained for hours. mrC |
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