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Harry Potter:
--- Quote from: Ahigh on October 08, 2005, 11:57:58 am ---But apparently, even the moderators of the forum are in full support of this UC "boycott" as IF anybody here ever even bought one thing from UC.
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The point is he made an attack on the thing (ie. MAME) which drives most of our self built/restored/modified machines.
And of course we'd never buy from him (that's not to say he makes crap, but all the hoopla about breeders cup is over the top). Otherwise this place would be called "Buy Your Own Arcade Controls".
PS: Bacon rules.
btoddkelley:
I have commented very little on the Ultracade issue but I believe Ahigh's (modified while i was typing!) post deserves a response. I can understand your frustration with negative comments directed toward the for which you work, but I believe you are missing an important point. The CEO of the company for which you work made a choice to engage in unethical and illeagle business practices.
quarterback:
--- Quote from: Ahigh on October 08, 2005, 11:57:58 am ---I feel like nobody treats me like a member of the forum, and instead ridicules me because I work for David.
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I don't think that's true. I've seen a number of threads where you've posted and I think people treat you the same as they would even if you didn't work for Foley.
--- Quote ---I'm personally very upset about this. I'd really like all you guys to stop bashing UC.
I know these requests will fall on deaf ears.
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Dude, the guy started the process of taking legal control over something he had nothing to do with. Something he didn't create. Something he never worked on. He tried to take legal control of something that didn't belong to him. That is un-debatable. That is the 100% truth.
This isn't about who mailed who what C&D letter and why. Or who it was the pulled the eBay auctions and why. This isn't about somebody claiming an email said XYZ while another claims the email said WXY. The fact is that he tried to get legal & financial control over something that wasn't his.
He's got lots of excuses as for why he might have done this, but I don't care. His reasons (truthful or not) are irrelevant. Charles Manson could say that he had people killed so the public would wake up to the see what's going on, but that wouldn't make the Manson killings acceptable.
Action is character. David Foley's documented, undisputed actions tell me more than I ever wanted to know about this guy. If you choose to defend and support him, then you're defending and supporting who he is, who is a guy who tried to legally gain control of something that doesn't belong to him.
Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: Ahigh on October 08, 2005, 01:07:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: btoddkelley on October 08, 2005, 12:50:21 pm ---... to attempt to restore UltraCade's reputation with this (BYOAC) and the Mame community...
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I don't think it can. It was a direct, purposeful, hypocritical, illegal and immoral attack. There isn't anything that he could have done to make it worse. Even now, he doesn't see anything wrong with what he did. Nobody can trust the guy, so nobody can trust his company. He won't even answer some of the questions posted to him, and he lies in the ones he does answer.
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RayB:
--- Quote from: Ahigh on October 08, 2005, 01:41:19 pm ---I don't think he hurt any BYOAC members who are strict hobbiest and don't profit from the illegal use of Mame.
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