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Should I stick my GameCube in my cabinet?
stratjakt:
The gamecube can output 480P *iff* you have an older model with the digital multi-out port.
This is fine for a VGA monitor. It cannot do 480i, or output 15khz RGB signal (CGA, standard arcade monitor), unless there's a new hack I'm unaware of, which was what I was trying to say - there's no way I know of to hook it up to a standard arcade monitor.
On top of that, the VGA cable or D-terminal cable(s) only work if the game supports progressive scan 480P. Since Nintendo dropped hardware support for it, developers stopped wasting time trying to support it, and consequently most new games don't support 480P, and would be unplayable.
Like I said before, the actual circuitry for RGB is inside the cable itself..
Anyhoo - in the US at least, S-Video is about the best you're going to be able to get out of it.. You could use a composite/svideo to RGB adapter board to wire it to an arcade monitor, but the picture would be no better (probably worse) than a TV.
RayB:
StratJakt... don't dismiss the responses others have already made. In Europe they have a standard called "Scart". It's basically RGB + sync + left and right audio all split up to seperate pins.
All you need to do is order one of those cables and you're set.
stratjakt:
I'm not dismissing anything. I'm sure it works for him, and I'm sure his TV is converting 480P to something it can display.
The gamecube has the old nintendo multi-out, but unlike n64 and early SNES's, there is nothing on the old analog RGB pins. Not there.
Early gamecubes have a digital multi out, this was discontinued on later models. In fact, finding one with digital out is tricky, because they ended this practice early, since all it did was add expense, and consumers didnt care. The GCN I bought the kids on release day has one, the one I bought myself a year later does not.
You can connect a cable here which will output 480P component video. The circuitry that generates the signal is in the cable itself. These cables can be hacked, or you can get an aftermarket cable, to output VGA (RGB, 31khx). Finding this cable is even trickier, Nintendo stopped manufacturing them early on. Lik-sang *had* some, but were on reorder last time I checked.
IIRC (I'm no euro), but SCART doesn't mean the same thing as arcade CGA. Is SCART not really some do-all cardedge connector? Just because you have a SCART hookup doesn't mean its recieving a RGB signal w/15khz sync, am I right?
I helped my friend wire his kids GCN through the 9-pin vga connector on his plasma screen (with the VGA cable), so yeah, he's got "RGB" inputs, but this wont make it work on a standard res arcade monitor.
I scoured the earth from one end to the other trying to find a way to hook my GCN up to analog component video (480i), so it can live on the same video switch as my XBox and PS2. There is no way. There is no analog RGB out, and no easy mod to get RGB, like there was on the N64 and later model SNES's.
If you know a way, then let the crew at gamesx know, since that site is basically all about putting consoles in arcade cabs.
And if you know a way to get RGB out, then it's a skip and a jump to get 480i analog component video from it, which is what I want. The only solution I could find invloved a scan converter.
If I'm wrong, then let me know, becauae as I said, I've searched high and low. SVideo is the best the current GCNs can do, with the older supporting 480P through the digital out.
elvis:
--- Quote from: stratjakt on September 28, 2005, 06:10:47 pm ---The gamecube has the old nintendo multi-out, but unlike n64 and early SNES's, there is nothing on the old analog RGB pins. Not there.
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What model GC do you own? Only PAL SNES units didn't output RGB. USA NTSC SNES and Japanese Super Famicoms output RGB.
As mentioned, there are people on this forum (eg: MinWah who replied above) who use a SCART connector on their GameCubes. SCART *IS* RGB. Converting SCART to something JAMMA compliant is pretty trivial, as documented by the PC2JAMMA website:
http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/
SCART cables for GameCube are certainly available. I can find a dozen ebay and other online stores selling them without much effort. Here's the first half-dozen hits from Google for "GameCube RGB":
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews83497.html
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews83500.html
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000060NY9/302-6885383-4385601
http://www.take2.co.za/product.php?id=6036
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=183&products_id=220
http://www.cex.co.uk/product.asp?sku=NCONGAME001
The big question is: if indeed certain particular GameCube consoles do not allow the use of SCART/RGB cables, which models are these? Looking around I'm seeing plenty of evidence of individuals using SCART cables without any issues.
stratjakt: could you let is know what type/region/model GC you have?
ginno:
--- Quote ---Another potential idea is to make a GC-sized cutout in the side of the cabinet, mount the GC sideways in the cutout so that the top can be opened for disc changes.
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