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Author Topic: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig  (Read 108766 times)

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2007, 10:28:20 pm »
Very nice.  I've decided to top mount my joysticks so building a jig would be a great way for me to get used to my router.  Thanks for the tips.  I wish Home Depot was open right now because I really want to work on my CP right now.  :'(
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2008, 08:58:30 pm »
how big is that hole for the joystick

1 inch?

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2008, 08:45:38 pm »
how big is that hole for the joystick

1 inch?

I'm top mounting the joysticks.  That means it's much bigger than 1-inch, thank you.   ;D
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2009, 03:13:59 am »
Im going to go look at router stuff today so it will probably make more sense later.

The bushing is a piece that mounts before the bit that lets you ride along an edge to guide the cutting bit.  Its at the base of the router so in our case when cutting your actual control panel it would be riding the edge of our template.

However when cutting the actual template you did not use a bushing, instead you used one of those pattern bits with the bearing on the end of it (flush trim bit) and let the bearing guide you instead of the bushing.

Is that correct?  It just seems odd as I thought we used the bushings to eliminate the need for one of the bits with the bearings on it.  You could do it with just a normal bit and a bushing right, or is perhaps the bushing to big to get the corners right.

I guess the final picture confuses me its stained but it looks like the bottom, so you can stick the joystick up through it so this is a bottom mounted build you did right?  If it was top mounted the base of the joystick wont fit through that hole.  But if it is bottom mounted I dont know why the part you wont see was stained?

Then there is the question of terms.  You cut the jig with a bit that has a bearing on the tip, when I googled "flush trim bit" I get those with the bearing at the top: http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5411

This would work, you could just have the template for the jig on the top instead of the bottom I suppose, also these seem to be popular - http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_flush.html

2nd to last one with bearing at the shaft and the tip of the bit.

For me it seems that I would use the one with the bearing at the top more often so that you can cut into things, if your cutting into something you cant have the bearing on the tip of the bit.
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2009, 04:38:46 am »
Heya Timoe do you have the rest of replies 2, 4 and 5?

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2009, 05:37:11 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2009, 09:58:35 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?
If the wood is too thick then not enough of the joystick will stick out the top. If the wood is thin enough to do that then you have a flimsy CP. The recess probably keeps it locked in place better too.

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2009, 02:56:16 am »
Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?
If the wood is too thick then not enough of the joystick will stick out the top. If the wood is thin enough to do that then you have a flimsy CP. The recess probably keeps it locked in place better too.
Maybe I was just lucky in my choice of joysticks (some Happ model, don't remember which now) then. I mounted mine under a 12mm fiber board and using four carrier bolts to hold it in place. It is just a temporary control panel used until I start building my cab, so maybe I should try sinking it to know which way to go for the real thing...

Thanks for the help.

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #48 on: February 26, 2011, 02:42:11 pm »
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Maybe a really stupid question but why do you have to sink the joysticks, why can't you simply mount it to the underside?

You can but top mounting improves the following:

1) More shaft above CP
2) Easier to ensure no carriage bolts above CP. You get a nice flush mount.

This is a great tutorial but I used FrancoB's method which I think is even more straightforward.
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #49 on: February 26, 2011, 03:24:50 pm »
I've mounted them to the underside and just screwed them in. If you want you can route out the area for the plate (or use a wood chisel) to get a little more height. Never had a problem with the screws poking thru or having to deal with bolt heads or joystick breaking loose and it looks great!
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #50 on: February 27, 2011, 04:37:51 pm »
Absolutely, underside works fine and of course can be done without screws poking through etc but imo you just can't beat a top mounting for length of shaft and if you do it properly strength is of no concern.  I have done both but wouldn't go back to bottom mounting after having done it the top way.
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2012, 01:59:48 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2012, 08:25:28 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2012, 09:08:28 am »
I defeated my adhere to the bottom of the panel to provide some extra joystick height gradually loosened, the second player side of the router, when I looked at it transmitted all through the place, you can imagine I was a little angry. :afro: :afro:

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2013, 09:56:04 pm »
thanks for the tutorial. now i just need to get me a new router.
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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2013, 12:44:54 pm »
thanks for the tutorial, learnt something new today :)

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2017, 01:05:55 pm »
If mounting a JLF from below into some MDF, what is the minimum thickness of MDF I want to have? I will have to recess my sticks, and don't want anything visible topside, and was worried the MDF will be too weak for mounting that way. Any help is appreciated.

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #57 on: November 19, 2017, 01:15:40 pm »
If mounting a JLF from below into some MDF, what is the minimum thickness of MDF I want to have? I will have to recess my sticks, and don't want anything visible topside, and was worried the MDF will be too weak for mounting that way. Any help is appreciated.
Check out the "Under mount (support blocks)" mounting method.   ;D

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Re: How to make a Top Mount or Under Mount Joystick Jig
« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2017, 04:09:19 pm »
Thanks PL1... i was considering the same method as being my likely solution if strength was going to be an issue. This puts me at ease. Much appreciated.